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bulivye

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  1. bulivye

    Sunderland...

    You're not Spanish at all are you? You're some imposter from Birkenhead. Actually I wrote "awesome" first and then realized it sounded too yank and tried to come up with something more British Unrelated but i asked this while game was on and got no response, what do Spanish fans shout when a shot goes close - is it just "Oooooee"? ¡Uuuuuuuuuuuuy! "oooooeee" or "ooooleeee" is when you pass the ball around the players of the other side when you're up, we call that the "rondo" since you are dancing around them. It's actually a common game to play with a football when you're a kid in Spain. ohhhhhh. we say "ole" for that. (which is actually derived from the moorsih for 'allah') This claim for the etymology of ole (bravo) from Allaah (Allah, God) crops up a lot. It has a certain charm to it and draws on our fascination with the kingdom of Al-Andalus and the fusion of Muslim, Jewish and Christian cultures that thrived in the Iberian peninsula from the 8th century until the expulsion of Jewish and Islamic people and religious cultures in Spain in the 16th and early 17th centuries. Unfortunately it has been discredited, mainly on the basis of the lack of evidence and the unlikely phonological shifts necessary to go from the low final vowel sound of Allaah to the high of ole. For the best and most knowledgeable treatment, see the late Alan S. Kaye (2005) ‘Two Alleged Arabic Etymologies’, Journal of Near Eastern Studies 64:2 (subscription required). The historical record is not in favour of the Allaah etymology either. Spanish ole is not recorded before 1541, long after the Reconquista. The revised entry in OED Online (2003) suggests ole may derive from hola/ola (the greeting) but is cautious even on this. Interestingly, there are lots of exclamations of greeting, surprise or despair in both romance and Germanic languages that have a vowel-’l'-vowel pattern of some sort - compare alas, hela, weyla, hola, hail, heil hello (and its earlier variants, including hallo and hullo), holla, etc. (Note: not French voilà, which is from vois la - ‘look there’.) As the OED implies, these probably all developed around each other to a certain extent. http://alexsteer.net/posts/2009/11/ole-allah-and-all/
  2. deng's quite popular here in chicago fwiw.
  3. http://www.bbc.co.uk/tees/content/articles/2009/03/30/tees_tf_blade_runner_feature.shtml http://republic-of-teesside.blogspot.com/2007/12/ridley-scotts-blade-runner-and-teesside.html very cool! thanks! i saw this: http://www.movie-locations.com/movies/b/bladerun.html
  4. i would love it, absolutely LOVE it if i had a hat like that!
  5. what really gets on my tits is that players have said they're doing it for the fans. well, THIS fan (and i'll bet there are others) wants the team to beat the SHITE out of teams like this. ESPECIALLY roy Keane's team!!!
  6. absolutely furious, me! :rant: :angry4: :angry4: :angry4: :angry4:
  7. perhaps the N-O members should do a 'just-for-fun' bracket on one of the sports sites?
  8. bulivye

    CHAMPIONS!!!

    :headbang: :headbang: :hello2: :indi: :promotion: :promotion:
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