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It was actually quite good last night actually. Usually fuckin hate the programme, but didnt know kids went round beating their dads up on it. I just thought they argued about who had the most sheep and stuff.

I don't think Baba meant it like you're thinking tbf. I think he's saying it's an example that would terrify any gay footballer, rather than being critical of Fashanu himself. Feel free to correct me though Baba. Well yeah, I am not really being critical of Fashanu himself (though he is no saint. Do not forget their was a rape charge hanging over him before the hanging). The fact of the matter is that the only openly gay footballer saw his career go into tailspin and ended up dead eight years later. If the first black footballers had horrible career experiences, found no success, and ended up killing themselves then it probaly would have set back integration for a fair bit. No one wants to have to carry the weight that Justin did. It is much easier to play pretend and hide your sexual orientation. On my point about the atmosphere around professional sports, here is an interview about John Amaechi, a basketball player that came out after retirement (British-Nigerians breaking down barriers!): These attitudes are more common in male-dominated industries than other places, imo. It is best to keep quiet. So you post that, and don't think there's a problem to be addressed?

Aye. Haha. Ive heard it from a quite reliable source tbf.

The Taylor texting Carrolls bird story is coming from a few places now. Sounds like it could be true.

McGeady would be a terrible signing at that money and is no better than what we have. He ALWAYS buckles in the big games. Would much rather McCarthy from Wigan.

I don't see why all gay people in general would feel the 'need' to come out. It might just not be that important to a person. Not everybody will be eaten up with guilt feeling they're living a lie. They might just think, what the fucks it got to do with anyone else? I'm sure most people don't go around flaunting what they do in the bedroom or what their fantacies are. There probably more people in the closet, than people who who are out. They probably just don't find the need to tell everyone. Everybody keeps things about their lives to themselves without it eating them up, so I'm sure its the same for gay people who don't let others know.

I think this thread, and the Xisco one shows a campaign is needed. Although the current one the showed on Late Kick Off is pretty shit.

Why, because the pricks at Old Trafford or the Camp Nou wouldn't do it? Nowt wrong with a pitch invasion to celebrate going up. We did it at Grimsby and it'll happen at Plymouth or Reading or wherever. Can't wait to see the threads appear on here from all the lads sat at their monitors in all their dignified glory. It's got nowt to do with Man United man. We haven't achieved anything - it's those arrogant pricks' faults we're down here in the first place - celebrating the fact we're going back to where we should never have left in the first place is stupid. I wouldn't say its the 'arrogant pricks' fault tbh. We went down because we were in mayhem all season, the management was shocking, and we totally lacked quality in the centre of midfield. The pricks who I would blame for not stepping up to the plate last season, like Owen, have gone. By 'arrogant pricks', I was covering management, ownership and players alike Fair enough.

Why, because the pricks at Old Trafford or the Camp Nou wouldn't do it? Nowt wrong with a pitch invasion to celebrate going up. We did it at Grimsby and it'll happen at Plymouth or Reading or wherever. Can't wait to see the threads appear on here from all the lads sat at their monitors in all their dignified glory. It's got nowt to do with Man United man. We haven't achieved anything - it's those arrogant pricks' faults we're down here in the first place - celebrating the fact we're going back to where we should never have left in the first place is stupid. I wouldn't say its the 'arrogant pricks' fault tbh. We went down because we were in mayhem all season, the management was shocking, and we totally lacked quality in the centre of midfield. The pricks who I would blame for not stepping up to the plate last season, like Owen, have gone.

Not sure ill be able to scale the drop down from Level 7 tbh. haha.

Rafael Scheidt (pronounced Shite). He really was.

Jonas at the moment.

Its because there arnt many people who want to watch you, whereas we have loads of fans wanting to watch us. Theres good things and bad things about it though. It means that I got to see Sheffield United and Swansea away on one hand, as I couldn't get, but on the other hand I had to travel to Preston on a Monday night, and leave in the small hours to get to Cardiff in time for a early Sky kick off. Plymouth is a pisstake. If I could afford to get to every single away game, I think I would be pretty pissed off with the number of games changed to silly times this season.

Kadar surely centre back?

Na, just saw him with someone on a facebook page and loads of people spotted him. Its always big news if someone slightly famous is ever in Berwick. Haha

Na too young im afraid, but ive heard of him.

He was here (Berwick) last week too. Wonder who this bird is. One of his pals plays for Berwick. I am pretty sure he is still with Faye. Nobody from Berwick plays for Berwick, so I doubt thats it.

He was here (Berwick) last week too. Wonder who this bird is.

Didnt know Silkman had said that about Bobby. Fuckin ridiculous! What an absolute cunt of a man.

Internet car crash. Haha! The police were cunts, back on topic

Class

They didn't know what they were doing all day. That ridiculous escort was a joke. At one point I just walked through the front of it, then had to slip back into it to meet my mates again. Its served no purpose. Then at the end they started to head under that bridge. I had no idea where I was going so just followed, and found out I was facing up to smoggies. Haha. Thought I was going to get battoned. They were wankers on the way there too. They just seemed to lift this lad for no reason. He looked about 14/15. Seemed to me the police were just doing a 'look what we can do!' thing. No way were they going to go an lift someone bigger. Cunts!

Europe. Playing Leeds when we were both good. Games that made me nervous against clubs my mates support, like Leeds above, Sunderland, Liverpool, Man Utd. And thinking we stood a chance. Football First when I come in mortal on a Saturday night. Quality football. Trying in cups. The Robert, Bellamy, Speed, Solano, Shearer era. Expectation that we go actually go on and win something.

It was probably The Sun or News of the World bugging the place. The media in this country go into overdrive to ruin Englands chances on World Cup years.

Just heard him on the radio. They were basically up his arse. Its fine Anderson saying Llambais is being honoust, but they don't push him on any point. They just let him say what he wants, accept it and agree. Not much confidence for the future.