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Most naive post of the year right here.

Because maybe they weren't behind it at the time but now are.

Why does anyone even reply to that moron Penn? He's one of those idiots who plays the sensible realist when in reality he's the most delusional on here.

He never gave a s*** for 13 years, but now he's staying because he seems to give a s***? More logical that he is trying to go out looking good and also getting a snide attack in at the PL at the same time. Probably the second bit is most important to him.

I don't see how it's shameful to question someone's motives. Whether it's Khashoggis girlfriend or anyone else. People have opinions, disagree with them but stop trying to cut them off by labelling them shameful or indecent.

Who has been voted into power to create this super league thing like?

I'm not sure I completely understand how the current system is forcing lower league clubs to go broke to be honest. As far as I'm aware overspending is endemic down there and it's down to mismanagement and poor regulation. Poor business fundamentals and the pandemic are killing them, this would be killing them even if they were getting a bigger slice of the premier leagues money. Absolutely, if they'd received 25% of the current PL TV deal a few years ago, they'd all have raised their revenues by the same amount in a attempt to compete with each other and the PL clubs. So they'd still be right on the profit/loss line now and still fucked by the sudden drop in income.

So basically he's saying the league structure is fucked so lets accept removing actual competition from Football so that Football clubs (of which the entire point is competition) can survive. Fucking tosser.

Another way to look at it is its a signal that they aren't willing to keep talking for months with no resolution. If they believe the PL are just trying to waste time again then serious legal proceedings will start. At that point the PL lose ultimate control over the timescale and also risk financial loss and also loss of face if some of the shite they've been pulling is exposed in court. Also I think Ashlety is exactly the kind of person who would take this as far as he can even without the current buyers. He's offended easily and holds grudges, I'm sure he's never been told he cant sell something he owns before and he's fucking furious about it.

You're acting like we have a choice in the matter, there's no way we'd even be considered for one Certainly not. We'd have no choice. I'm just saying what I'd rather. I see absolutely no appeal in following a team in a league that means nothing, unless we could get promoted to that new top level. I don't get how the domestic league would suddenly mean nothing. To me this European super league would mean nothing. Knowing that it's 100% about glitz and glamour to squeeze every last penny out of glory supporters around the world to the absolute detriment of the clubs core support would be a bridge to far for me. The Premier League is already terrible for it. But to see a league that takes that to its furthest conclusion would make it pointless to me and I'd have no interest watching NUFC in it even under new owners.

When I was actually interested in NUFC outside of a potential takeover I did watch every Premier League game that was shown. I mean NUFC was the only club I gave a shite about, but these other clubs were all competitors so I still enjoyed watching their matches.

Every club is heavily reliant on TV money, just a matter of degrees. If theoretically you completely remove all TV money our revenue would drop from £176m to about £60m (still higher than most Championship clubs total revenue including TV money). But some current PL clubs would be getting as little as £25m if all TV money was removed (Norwich revenue would drop from £126m to £30m). Of course as you mention our commercial revenue should, and could be so much higher as well. With owners who actually want to succeed. Obviously TV money isn't going to disappear, just looking purely at how reliant clubs are on that revenue.

We didn't earn Championship money when we were in the Championship so no I don't think we would in this situation either. Other clubs would. But I think over time things would change. Fans dwindling from these super league clubs would inevitably mean TV money dwindling in the long term. While the teams left in a genuine competitive domestic league would slowly grow. Long term I agree they'd want to rejoin. Just my opinion but I think the entire idea of a super league is flawed and would fail long term I think over 50% of the tv money is for the overseas deals. I have a strong suspicion this is to watch Man U, Liverpool etc. Imho we would see a massive reduction of money in the English game should the top 6 form a European super league. Sadly we’ve created a league where money is all that counts. Even if they were to leave this wouldn’t change that fact it would just lead to an inferior product. Its about 40% of total TV money. Obviously I agree that kind of reduction in TV money would have a big effect on the English game overall. But even if we assume the entire revenue from overseas TV disappeared (which I'm sure it wouldn't, just a very large reduction) that would still leave NUFC earning £126m, which is more than some Premier League clubs earn now and about twice what a top Championship club gets. Basically what I'm saying is some clubs are more reliant on TV money than others and luckily for NUFC (if you even give a shit under current ownership) we're one of the least reliant. As shown in our Championship seasons when we still came out with more money than some Premier League clubs at the time. Also should be remembered that, as much as they whine, the top 6 clubs received nearly 40% of total TV rights money last season.

We didn't earn Championship money when we were in the Championship so no I don't think we would in this situation either. Other clubs would. But I think over time things would change. Fans dwindling from these super league clubs would inevitably mean TV money dwindling in the long term. While the teams left in a genuine competitive domestic league would slowly grow. Long term I agree they'd want to rejoin. Just my opinion but I think the entire idea of a super league is flawed and would fail long term

Add thick to that as well. They're so fucking stupid they don't realise that they are where they are because of the competitive nature of the league. Which only works with all the teams contributing. They're under the delusion that their club has the devine right to have millions of "fans" around the world. That they bring in all the money and the rest are just leeching off them. Not realising that most of those fans start watching the league itself because of what it is collectively, then choose a club to support along the way. They just happen to be one of the bigger names in that league and so get picked more often than the rest. Without the popularity of the PL they just wouldn't have all of these "fans" around the world. Fucking greedy stupid mongs, they basically don't understand how the game works or why the PL is so popular and are pushing for their own eventual downfall. Great, burn it down to be honest..

They're going to bridge the gap between the PL and Championship by making the league into a dictatorship and bribing clubs to support the Idea then So, as a club outside of the top 6, you're supposed to play a match against one of them and know that they have the power to punish you if they see fit? How on earth can this greasy b****** try to put this joke of an idea across as if its some kind of heroic virtuous thing being offered by the top 6 to save the game?? He's got no f***ing shame at all.

How can Huddersfield have the same vote as Man United?? What a absolute mong.

Doing well up to April 2019, can imagine the accounts of MASH are carnage now however.

To give refs the chance not to make fucking pathetic decisions, unfortunately some of them are fucked in the head.

But but but, they're Bruce's buys? Caulkin has as much a clue as Edwards. He built a reputation on being significantly more articulate that the typical local journalist and having a tenuous friendship with Staveley which has been shown up to be worth less than a slice of dung smeared toast. I'd be happy to state that people on this forum know as much about what has gone on as Caulkin does after the last few months. Completely untrue. How so? People on here only know what Caulkin and the press tell them barring a few that claim to be ITK. So i Don't think it's unreasonable to claim that people on here know as much as he does (or publishes at least). There's enough members watching many many sources and reports, so anything that comes out tends to end up here one way or another. So your argument is that we know as much as Caulkin does after he tells us, which means he knows nowt? That would only be true if he never received new info. Also the reasoning that all his info from Staveley is worthless because what she's told him hasn't always come to pass is faulty. For instance she might be assured the takeover is being allowed soon. She tells Caulkin who passes, something changes and it doesn't happen That's a case of changing circumstances rather than inaccurate info. So it's no reason the think all other info is worthless.

Would be a bit wary of their intentions if they're after West Ham for that kind of cash (far more than its worth as a sporting club) . But anyone's better than fat Mike I suppose.

Aye, the largest Football league in the world being sued by its own club hardly requires a specific NUFC interest to be news worthy. Don't buy the lack of interest angle for a second.

Its all utter shite from the PL. I mean as if the other PL club owned by a Saudi Prince couldn't be influenced by MBS... This is just an excuse. Only things they're worried about are not pissing off their masters, which are the top 6 and Qatar.

The PL are not a cash rich organisation either, the operation is actually quite small. This could get very tasty, especially in the current climate. One things for sure other clubs will be f***ing furious If the PL has the financial support of those other clubs they'll be alright. £10million off each of them should see them alright. Can't see many clubs happy to lose 10/20million just to keep the PL going. Would imagine if the PL lose and have a massive bill, the clubs would let them go to the wall and just set up a new league organisation...Ultra League or something along those lines Neither can I. That was a starting point. But I'm sure a scale could work. £50M a piece from Man U&C, Chelsea, Liverpool, Spurs and Arsenal would do it. How would that look though? NUFC takeover is rejected and from the ensuing court case NUFCs direct competitors from the same league pay the court fines.. Corruption tastic that like.

Er yeah anyone going fucking deserves it.