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I agree, which is why its not sensible IMO to not want the takeover because you don't want to be owed by Saudi Arabia. No bother if people don't want to have Saudi money in the club, but to want to pass this takeover up and stay with Ashley for god knows how much longer?

"The World Trade Organisation has ruled that Saudi Arabia was behind a pirate satellite TV and streaming service that illegally broadcast sporting events" But they haven't though, have they? They've established that Saudi Arabia didn't do enough to stop it, not that SA was behind the illegal broadcasts. The same people would be complaining if the Saudis had caught those behind beoutQ and chopped their arms off (or whatever they do to pirates over there). Can't win. but the premier league wouldn't give half a shit and would have rubber stamped the takeover months ago You don’t want this takeover to go through do you, now you’re straw clutching. quite frankly I would rather almost anyone else be trying to buy the club preferably someone without one of the worst human rights records in the world Careful now with that sensible opinion. Sensible? To see the club destroyed for 12 years and then think "whey I'm not sure I like these new owners lets wait it out and see if better come along".

"The World Trade Organisation has ruled that Saudi Arabia was behind a pirate satellite TV and streaming service that illegally broadcast sporting events" But they haven't though, have they? They've established that Saudi Arabia didn't do enough to stop it, not that SA was behind the illegal broadcasts. The same people would be complaining if the Saudis had caught those behind beoutQ and chopped their arms off (or whatever they do to pirates over there). Can't win. but the premier league wouldn't give half a shit and would have rubber stamped the takeover months ago You don’t want this takeover to go through do you, now you’re straw clutching. quite frankly I would rather almost anyone else be trying to buy the club preferably someone without one of the worst human rights records in the world You've suffered the same never ending death of supporting NUFC through the Mike Ashley years and still think we've got the luxury of who we'd rather buy the club?

I doubt the Premier League even saw the end of the report, more likely they were given the worst possible snippets by Qatar and have been waiting to put it all into context when their lawyers read the whole thing.

Basically just seems to be saying that Saudi Arabia haven't kept to their obligation of allowing Qatar to chase BEoutQ in their courts. Then concludes that Saudi Arabia should allow those proceedings. How the fuck was this made out to be some kind of nuclear bomb for the takeover??

Yeah it wasn't from the WTO report, he had spoken to lawyers from Saudi and Qatar and had it confirmed by them that PIF is separate legally.

Whose chairman owns the fucking country. Why are people so blind to this being an issue? Do people just have their heads in the sand? There's not a chance on earth this goes through. Zero. The directors' test says anyone who might have an influence over the club has to be squeaky clean, and not "reasonably" thought to have done anything like, I dunno, be involved in piracy. Can you think of anyone who has connections to PIF who this might apply to? I've been saying this for weeks. You might think it should be considered the same but if, as has been reported, it's a separate legal entity then that's what counts here. We'll have to wait and see.

Well if you post a tweet, leave it for a bit, then delete it you get the misinformation out there but never look like you posted utter shite to begin with, win win. People should start posting pictures of tweets so it can't be deleted.

Exactly. WTO now at the top of the list. Err think he means BBC like considering the WTO mention is complete nonsense from them.

If it’s a fail, there’ll be an appeal, if that fails I would think potential legal action. It could go on a bit longer. Do you think they would definitely appeal. My worry is they'd try elsewhere. Where, it’s the PL they want into, biggest league in the world, global coverage. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk It's only the biggest league in the world because it has the most money and the best players. But if both of those go elsewhere.....? No reason for that to change, PL is the richest and biggest for a reason. You're not suggesting that the Saudis buying a club in another League would be enough to even begin to dethrone the PL are you? I don't know the answer to that. But things are not beyond being able to be changed. It's only what, 25-30 years since Serie A was at least as big if not bigger than the PL. They certainly had all the biggest players. I remember watching Football Italia and being astonished that Italian spectators were being charged over £30 per ticket when I'd rock up at Newcastle and pay £3 on the door, admittedly as a 14-year old in the second division. They had the players, they had the spectators, the grounds, the money, the exposure. Then Sky came along and everyone came to the PL instead. I'm not for one second saying things will change, but things can change, we're not above being dethroned as the self-proclaimed biggest and best league in the world and the world's richest consortium buying a club in a different league and whilst it won't tip the scales entirely on its own, it can't be overlooked as something which may alter the balance of power between the different leagues at least a bit. The French league has already gone up in everyone's eyes because of what's happened with PSG. Anything can change over the course of 25-30 years, but with regard to the Saudis they aren't buying well into the future they're buying now. If they want a club in the biggest league then for the foreseeable future that means the PL.

Fuck it, he deserves it What did he expect being such a twat on Twitter, I mean the place is a fucking cookoo nest.

If it’s a fail, there’ll be an appeal, if that fails I would think potential legal action. It could go on a bit longer. Do you think they would definitely appeal. My worry is they'd try elsewhere. Where, it’s the PL they want into, biggest league in the world, global coverage. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk It's only the biggest league in the world because it has the most money and the best players. But if both of those go elsewhere.....? No reason for that to change, PL is the richest and biggest for a reason. You're not suggesting that the Saudis buying a club in another League would be enough to even begin to dethrone the PL are you?

Yeah seen that, that's the only legal view I've seen and its that they are a separate entity legally. Now there might be more views, but I haven't seen them anywhere.

The PL lawyers will be important in the decision and for me it hinges on PIF being a separate legal entity. So we are screwed then Why's that? Has anyone with legal knowledge claimed they aren't a separate entity legally?

Is this even serious? ?

Just out of interest how much does she stand to win if the verdict goes her way? I know the total amount is £1.5b, but surely she will only get a fraction of that?

Was he speaking in some kind of stilted Arabian accent when he said that?

For most of the clubs history it hasn't been one of the best around no. But not being one of the best and being a completely pointless unsupportable shell of a club are two very different things. Wanting the slow death of a pointless club to continue just so we can "get back to normal" is just something I can't wrap my head around.

Bottle of Wild Turkey Rare Breed at the ready.

I’m fairly sure BeIn let it be known that they would be seeking some sort of compensation if the deal goes through, possibly withholding future payments (if any) Richard Masters has probably been already assured that SA will take up the slack if this were to happen and would be acquiring the rights next time around. If BeIn had to let go of a hundred staff over the decline in revenue relating to BeoutQ, they might not be in a position to bid next time anyway. I love these imaginary best case scenarios that you all convince yourselves of. You're a real weirdo man.

I'd imagine he's suggesting that perhaps her lawyers are being paid by someone with a vested interest like Qatar. That doesn't require any specific belief on the case either way. Someone can be a victim yet still attract the support of people who are only in it for their own agenda.

The article that revealed one of these other proposed buyers (the only other named so far AFAIR) claimed that they were prepared to pay £50m more than PCP Capital. Despite the fact that's completely pointless at this stage, doesn't exactly lend credibility.

Not saying a takeover would actually still happen if we got relegated. But staying in the PL under Ashley and Bruce vs relegation and these new owners simply isn't a choice. The club is literally pointless under Ashley, might as well not exist. I'd take relegation and these new owners gladly by comparison.

This is the key part for people who don't want to go through it: