Beren

They've mastered Trolling. *Bows* they've genuinely played a blinder.

E-I-E-I-E-I-O down the divisions here we go....

Batter spurs with 10 men of course

12 points from the last six games

Mitro has got the pashun. No footballing skill but he's strong and young and full of pashun.

I'm not shouting down any form of protest. I'm just doubting what not showing up is going to achieve. That's exactly what you're doing. "It won't work so don't bother" Being in the Championship massively increases the chances of a sustained boycott having an effect with the Premier League money taken out of the equation, because the matchday revenue again becomes the main source of income, especially if you don't get promoted first time back and the parachute payments decrease. I got a text from an Everton mate of mine last night: "Just read (Ashley's statement). Ashley would have been long hounded out at Liverpool or Man Utd, or Arsenal. An entirely empty stadium just once would do it." The perception within football is that we are so desperate to show our "loyalty" that we'll keep going come hell or high water, even when they're actively taking the piss. Nobody knows that better than Mike Ashley and that's why he sticks around. He's like Donald Trump where Newcastle are concerned: “I could stand in the middle of Northumberland St and shoot somebody and I wouldn’t lose any supporters.” Cardiff boycotted one single game and within a week, they had their blue shirts back. Liverpool organised one walkout and within a week, the club had changed their pricing policy. At Newcastle though? Nah, definitely won't work, don't even try. I can't leave him, he loves me and he promises he'll change. Shut up and take my money Mike. Good post

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Good eggs tbh. Though gloating wouldn't invalidate that I don't think.

Couldn't get through it

Welcome to Mike Ashley/Pardew-world, swans.

£50 at what odds?

I don't know if it's time travel or reconstructive surgery - but I do feel like Peter Ramage was reincarnated and repackaged as a midfielder under a new identity: Jack Colback. He just forgot to change his Twitter handle.

Look, I have been to 4 games this year (previously had a season ticket for 16 years). The reasoning I gave myself at that time, other than the fact that I had a baby and my priorities changed somewhat, was that maybe just maybe if enough people stopped going something might change. But then the realisation set in... No one has yet given me a reasonable explanation of how not showing up is going to change anything? He wouldn't man. That's not how businessmen work. If and when he decides to sell, it will be when the value of the club is at it's highest he can make it. If you're talking about emptying the stadium every week, seeing us relegated further divisions, in the hope of eventually reclaiming our club and rising back up like some kind of metaphorical phoenix, is that REALLY worth the risk? Genuine question. There 's an industry dedicated to turning around failed businesses, departments etc. Why would football be any different? I would argue that is how business can work. Vendors selling something for a value which is good for them (ie. above the minimal advertising revenue receivable in the Championship, reduced turnstile coffers and reduced wonga t-shirt money) to purchasers who have the savvy, resource or will to extract more value from that something than in its present state (ie. an owner who wants to see the club succeed, and knows that financial success will follow footballing success). (eg. http://startups.co.uk/buying-failed-businesses/ ) In answer to your genuine question: yes To me the club serves no purpose and represents little to nothing of what I believe it should in its current guise. My stake is an empty husk of something valuable so I can't lose.

It's a priorities issue which each individual decides IMO. I personally value the club being successful and true to the values which I believe it ought to represent more than a day out (if I can use that as my nasty pejorative 'catch all'), or the potential of a 6-2 drubbing of an awful Norwich side once a season etc. If you value a day out more than the club being successful, then your priorities have helped to contribute to the perpetuation of the club being unsuccessful, so in my view it's a bit cheeky to then complain, when you either: a) didn't prioritise the club being successful over your day out or b) didn't know/refuse to accept that there is a correlation between your day out and the club continuing to be run as it is. I've got little sympathy for either category, and frankly, it doesn't sound like they want or need my sympathy. They will continue to have the fantastic days out they've been enjoying for the past 8 years.

Everyone has exactly the same rights and reasons to complain if they want to. Just because you don't go to the games (and I have only been to a few this season myself - both through lack of interest, other more important things to do etc) it does not automatically give you more right to complain. Just because you feel like you're doing something to "make a stand". The whole argument is so f***ing high and mighty man. It's embarrassing. I didn't want to pack in my season ticket and sacrifice ten years worth of loyalty points, I did it because it was the right thing to do, because funding Mike Ashley is damaging to Newcastle United. <b>How the f*** is it "high and mighty" to believe that people who keep paying top dollar for a s*** product (that they know is s*** and which admits its ambition is to be s***) can't complain when they receive a s*** product?</b> Because, quite frankly Wullie, putting money into Mike Ashley's pocket is NOT a guarantee that you will or should get a shit product, although. Every single season, at the start of the year, there is some level of renewed optimism (whether it's because of a new signing, a new manager, or simply because it's football and in reality anything can happen). No one bought a season ticket this year expecting us to get relegated... not after the money we spent in the summer (although there was the acknowledgment that we'd struggle to some degree without a more proven goalscorer). When you buy a ticket / season ticket (at any football club other than the elite), you're not paying for the finished product on the pitch. You're paying for the potential of a good game, the potential of a great goal, the matchday experience, a social life etc etc. You are well within your right to complain if the football is shit. Of course you are. If you're paying for potential, then you have received the supply for your consideration before a ball is kicked.

To support the regime, not the team. #Wait

Howay Sturridge, Firminho, Moreno and Deeney!

I specifically don't knock ambition. I just think it should be tempered with realism with respect to resources and time. Leicester have proved beyond doubt what can be achieved with a very efficient use of resources, but they were also fortunate. I think a lot can be achieved with a little, but I think in some instances expectations can still be too high.

Edit: F365: http://www.football365.com/news/alan-pardew-even-the-king-needs-a-little-fortune

Was reading something (maybe on here, maybe F365?) about Leicester's story raising the expectations of the likes of the mackems/Palace. Quite interesting. The modern football fan feels pretty entitled, pretty quickly. No bad thing with ambition tbh, but I don't think low expectations last long anywhere these days. Before Norwich were relegated last time I couldn't believe their forum (arguably not the best representative sample) and the expectations they had.

Payet's delivery man.

Quite surprised Rooney has scored as many as 7 league goals this season. Only one fewer than Mitrovic.