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We've all come to expect the worse, but this is not happening. Steve Bruce is incompetent. The Man Utd squad won't bother to disguise their contempt for that clown the first time he has them playing 11 behind the ball.

Seriously doubt that halftime shows have anything to do with it Television ad revenue.

Includes a fortunate draw with Crystal Palace at the Emirates. Arsenal were outplayed.

4:30 am in California. I never bothered to get up at 7 am on weekends to watch Bruce ball, but I am looking forward to watching this.

It's not broken. Chelsea, to be fair, had to make a change. Like the new Brentford badge. Most of the others have been tweaks, haven't they? Agree with @HaydnNUFC that a "dumbing down" of the color scheme wouldn't be entirely objectionable. But it it's not necessary.

It's a Norwich terrier.

Odd thing about Arsenal, seemingly never being able to beat them. And then, for whatever reason, getting semi-regular results against Chelsea -- more than you'd expect. Or so, that has been my impression during the Ashley years.

Hope they bet the bank on it.

It'll take Bruce at Man Utd for the pundit class to own up and admit he's not a premier league manager. He'll still have apologists. But they won't lose their jobs. Incompetents look out for one another.

What is Bruce's great achievement as a manager anyway? Taking Birmingham to a midtable finish 20 years ago?

Well thank you for that. Here I was feeling sorry for myself about being old and all, and now I just feel sorry for you. I suppose if all I knew of Given was his last season at the club I might feel similarly. You don't rate Krul? I can vaguely remember him being absolutely invinceable or a season (or half season) or so.

Panicked realization that I've probably been posting on this board for more years than you've been alive. Gather round children and let me tell ye the tale of Shay Given...

Watching the Watford Man Utd match now. Watford are awful.

Give him the Ben Arfa treatment. "He doesn't track back"

I was going post the same, but then I thought better of it. Been cranky and confrontational all day. Under Bruce playing defensively is all we did. Literally. Sat back, absorbed pressure and pray that could catch them on abreak.. or score from a set piece, or win a penalty. And we still allowed more goals than anyone else in the league save Norwich. Edit: ah Isee ayedubbleyoo,went there.

So we've heard that Howe is ruthless. Ship Darlow out in January.

@Froggy You don't think he'd come or you don't think the club wants him?

You mearnt Staverly and Yasrir, of corurse.

I'd think that Man Utd would get ten Hag if they wanted him. Much more tempting than us.

Been thinking the same about Arteta. Don't see it. They beat Tottenham at home and get a few results against relegation fodder and suddenly he's righted the ship. They're a midtable side.

If they turned in their third consequetive clean sheet would that have been better?

Hounded out.

Interesting that that he was the one player that Howe singled out by name before the game. Made it clear that Shevley would be important to our success. And he responded. Hope the Jedi mind tricks can work long term.