Decky

I always expected us to lose, even heavily (I predicted 4-0). But I expected some fight at least. The manner of the defeat was shocking, it was like we just picked 11 fans from the stands and fired them out to make up the numbers. I'm struggling to think of a team in the league that wouldn't beat us playing like that tonight.

Still stand by this. They'll be playing under Pardew. May as well just get two homeless bums to play for us instead, they'll be free.

Eh ? What about 7-3 at Arsenal ? Didn't Man United beat us 6-0 too?

Every cloud and that.

He threw all his mirrors out last season lads.

He'll blame Taylor and just blatantly say Man City were always going to slaughter us. Sure he even said at the start we can't compete with them. I wouldn't be surprised if he even blamed the media for talking about Cabaye. One way or another he won't mention the fundamental mistakes our players were making and the lack of ideas.

People will of course come in on their high horse and say we're all just giving a kneejerk reaction.

He wouldn't get into Arsenal's reserves if this is anything to go by.

Maybe we should tweet him calling him a stupid clown and see if he retweets that?

Could we not have just put Anita at LB and Mbiwa in the middle?

We're gonna sell Krul after this.

Did Pardew just say we can't compete with Man City's squad? Better just declare the game and go home then.

Jonas starting tonight, and people think we've already replaced Cabaye with Sissoko.

I mean't if they gamble with what they've got for more than a year and go back in for Baines.

I think anything between £30-£35 million should be acceptable for both parties. Everton could do so much with that money but the deal would need to happen this week because they're running out of time, and I think they'd want about 4 or 5 new signings with that cash if they sold those two. I think Man United are mad going for either though. Evra is still a good player, plus they also have Fabio and Buttner who are younger with potential. I think they could go another season at least with those 3, testing the wasters with the two younger full backs (Baines will be in his 30s at this stage). If they aren't up to the standard they need they could go out and find another player on the continent for better value. Fellaini doesn't fit in Man United at all for me, for the reasons Froggy has stated already. I've said that to my Man United supporting friends since last season and I stand by it. Also I'm guessing the bulk of the bid is made up with Fellaini's evaluation which makes me think they could get better value abroad again.

They definitely knew this bid would get rejected. This is far from over imo.

surely be to god they know these bids will just be rejected? is this arsenals version of we tried?! They're trying to unsettle the players and force the clubs to sell. It's just a different way to tap players up

There's no chance Arsenal will bid anything more than the high teens for him imo.

Imagine those 2 in a bidding war over one of our players ffs. If that happened we could actually get about £25 million, but it's essential we spend it.

Why? Big profit. I was going to say this as well. What did we get him for, £4 million? £12 could be good business in Ashley's eyes. One thing I'll say about that lot in charge is they do seem to get decent money when we sell, bar the odd case such as Given. I just hope it wasn't Llambias getting us the good deals.

This is probably the only time Kinnear can actually pick up the phone and call Wenger whenever he wants.

"£6 million for that daft foreigner Yohan Kebabs? Deal".

I'd be more confident of a replacement if Kinnear wasn't the man in charge of getting it. I just can't see that buffoon getting anyone of good quality here that isn't either free and desperate or a loan.

I'd say that is the answer there tbh. Cabaye has clearly got quality.

It would be a complete disaster if we let him go. We'd be losing a quality midfielder and we'd be relying on Joe Kinnear to replace him. If Kinnear somehow manages to see the transfer through, we'll be getting someone of Gosling's standard as a replacement.