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Oh, for fucksake. Not sure how much of this I can actually take. Any other manager in the world, and we'd be fucking hunting him down and hanging him. Not that I'm after Keegan, but, shit, what the fuck.

That was actually painful. What an absolute cretin.

Wow, what a choice. Cappello or Mourinho? No doubt we'll hit someone like van Gaal, though. Cappello for me, like. Better manager, and proved it over a longer time period and at more clubs. Splitting hairs with that, mind you.

One more than Souness. souness's blacburn were as good if not better than allardyce's bolton for one season What was the funding like at each club out of interest? And look what happened one one player left the team (Duff). They fell to bits. Quite some team he built...

One more than Souness. souness's blacburn were as good if not better than allardyce's bolton for one season Cheers.

One more than Souness.

Like I said, Allardyce has a record of building teams, good ones. Souness had a record of luck mixed with massive amounts of disappointment. Utterly bizarre that all the teams he won cups with wanted rid of him, eh. EDIT: Oh yeah, I'll forget to mention the other teams he outright failed with (something Allardyce hasn't done, yet). Wouldn't want things to get messy...

I know a lot of people who have no interest in Newcastle who think he's been found out and can't hack it away from Bolton. They expected him to do well but now think he can't. I guess we'll have to wait and see what happens. It's one thing to have your initial expectations wiped out, it's quite another to be seriously calling for the guy's head after so little time (not directed at you). Christ, we gave f****** Roeder and Souness longer, two horrific managers, with absolutely nothing in their history to suggest they'd ever get it right, but Allardyce has. Allardyce hasn't turned out to be as great as I thought either, but then maybe I am (we, all of us) just expecting too much too soon. Obviously performances like the last two simply are not on, but we really do need to get a grip of ourselves as a set of supporters. Let's remember Mick, it's not only managers we chase out of town at the first sign of trouble, we do it with players too. It's a deep-rooted problem we have, and sadly I don't think it's something that can really be 'fixed', perhaps just something that success will finally drive away. He has implemented a lot of off-field 'stuff' (couldn't really tell you what mind ), which I am more than sure will have an effect on our team in the long-term, I highly doubt we've seen the benefits of that. I, for one, would like to though, and not see him sacked before anything he's tried to do here actually has a chance to work. Managers get team selections wrong all the time, managers look like they've 'finally lost it' all the time too, the real point is, good managers learn from their mistakes and hopefully Allardyce is one of them. Time is the only thing that will allow us to find out though, otherwise all hail Paul Jewell, Newcastle's next saviour... Cause we ain't getting anyone better, not after our recent past. New owners or not, it's the fans that make the decisions round here. it's not just the last two though is it ? derby,sunderland,reading,boro,even citeh,coupled with liverpool and pompey is over half the games. i'm not advocating an outright sacking just yet but IF we have good money at our disposal (not necissarily ashleys as with the debt paid off those prior debt repayments which wewre club generated could now be used on team strengthening ) then we will be a very good looking opportunity for quality managers. I never said it was 'just' the last two though, what I mean was they were simply not on. The bottom of the barrel stuff. The other games, whilst poor, disappointing, demoralising, well, they happen over the course of a season. Not many teams go all season playing great, and not many managers get their teams playing the way they actually want them to within such a short time. All teams have bad patches. I know if this exact post had been used for Souness or Roeder, I'd have pissed myself laughing at it, but the fact is Allardyce has a record of building teams. That record is enough for me to keep faith in him and expect a season of progression. The season's not even over, yet we have people acting like we've just finished it, and finished it just above the relegation zone.

Go on, list them. I could do with a laugh. At a time when Blackburn & Bolton were very much on a par in terms of club size, Blackburn won the League Cup and finished top 6 under Souness. That's me sold. Get him back, what ever were we thinking.

Go on, list them. I could do with a laugh.

I know a lot of people who have no interest in Newcastle who think he's been found out and can't hack it away from Bolton. They expected him to do well but now think he can't. I guess we'll have to wait and see what happens. It's one thing to have your initial expectations wiped out, it's quite another to be seriously calling for the guy's head after so little time (not directed at you). Christ, we gave fucking Roeder and Souness longer, two horrific managers, with absolutely nothing in their history to suggest they'd ever get it right, but Allardyce has. Allardyce hasn't turned out to be as great as I thought either, but then maybe I am (we, all of us) just expecting too much too soon. Obviously performances like the last two simply are not on, but we really do need to get a grip of ourselves as a set of supporters. Let's remember Mick, it's not only managers we chase out of town at the first sign of trouble, we do it with players too. It's a deep-rooted problem we have, and sadly I don't think it's something that can really be 'fixed', perhaps just something that success will finally drive away. He has implemented a lot of off-field 'stuff' (couldn't really tell you what mind ), which I am more than sure will have an effect on our team in the long-term, I highly doubt we've seen the benefits of that. I, for one, would like to though, and not see him sacked before anything he's tried to do here actually has a chance to work. Managers get team selections wrong all the time, managers look like they've 'finally lost it' all the time too, the real point is, good managers learn from their mistakes and hopefully Allardyce is one of them. Time is the only thing that will allow us to find out though, otherwise all hail Paul Jewell, Newcastle's next saviour... Cause we ain't getting anyone better, not after our recent past. New owners or not, it's the fans that make the decisions round here. Or should I say, the one's that are loud enough.

He needs to be given time. His whole reputation is based on him building teams, not improving things from the off. When we hired Roeder and Souness, we pissed and moaned that they had no track record of... well, anything, bar ruining teams, so we had good grounds to cry out for their heads, but we got the exact opposite in Allardyce. Someone with a track record, a good one, albeit not the world's best, but we have him now and we have to stick with him for a reasonable length of time. Just now I'm saying the rest of the season as I am a little concerned. At the beginning of this season I was saying at least two years, which to be honest, is the right amount. I'm firmly in the Yes: Keep the big man no matter what camp. What saddens me most though, guys, is that every other set of supporters predicted we'd be like this, and by this time. We're utterly pathetic. Sometimes I wish we still had Shepherd, then perhaps the insane levels of expectations may never have arrived.

I have to agree with this. It's no shock that some of the teams running away from us have invested heavily in their team, and then there's us, with a rather modest investment given our apparently super rich owner. Is it really then fair to compare him (us) to the likes of Sven and Man City? Although Sam's made some bizarre decisions in his time here, I still have enough faith in him to sort us out on the long-term. But then my expectations were somewhat more realistic than others, who seemed to just pick up from where they left off last season and demand European football as a bare minimum.

Been quoted in the past as saying he'd like the job (not sure if anyone else has just said that, as I'm not long in). Would finally be a choice in manager I'd be fully behind. Don't be sad folks, this loss is for the best.

No doubt I'll be labelled a hypocrite, or something, by our local Scots, but try putting up with all the anti-English "banter" these cunts dish out daily for 20 years and we'll see just how tolerant they are. Incidently, I tanned a bottle of Jack Daniels in a (double) celebration, but I have a 7am start tomorrow...

What a beautiful day. blueyes.gif

"Can't wait til we win, and Russia send you out, you traitorous English bastard." I'll have a good night tonight, I thank you very much, my not-at-all-bitter Scottish work colleague. (Not arsed about England, sooner McClaren's out the better.)

Que the exact same things being said about them...

In a pub in Partick, probably a pub that has a dog in it too.

Couldn't be more delighted, after all the shite I've put up with in recent months. You'd think actually getting better might unload that massive chip on the shoulder, but it gets worse. Perhaps not as nasty though, I guess... Plus, McClaren one step closer to getting the chop. All good.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nutmeg_(football) Isn't loading for me though. EDIT: Finally has.

If you take sectarianism out of the Old Firm, it'll cease to be interesting. Anyone that gets the slightest bit offended by the songs either sets of fans sing seriously needs their face bossed into a wall. Incidently, I've never met any Rangers or Celtic fan that does actually get offended by any song. They all sing them, then the next day get back to work with their catholic and protestant mates that they 24 hours previously hated. It all means jackshit, and it is, once again, people getting offended on other people's behalf. The reason they have more scumbag fans than most other teams isn't because of the religious side or hatred, but because of Glasgow, by the way. It's full of them.

Rangers, cause it was the part of Glasgow I was brought up in.

Completely laughed out loud when I say this title, fucking idiots.