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Again not defending the performance today but you've named three games out of 26 that you're not happy with - none of which we've lost. Hardly an indictment of a failing manager. I could name you 20 games where I have not been happy with our performance. As I've already said, the Wolves away game, was pretty much the same, we won of course and great, but for me, performances are the true indicator of what's happening or what's coming and if we do not change the way we play our football I'll tell you what is coming.... more of the same today and that's not good enough. I really think you're living in a different world if you think there's been 20 games where you've not been happy this season.

It's Ok saying drop them but who for? You can drop Simpson, put R.Taylor in and someone else on RW but who can play better than Jonas and Williamson on LW and CB?

Again not defending the performance today but you've named three games out of 26 that you're not happy with - none of which we've lost. Hardly an indictment of a failing manager.

As per usual we see massive overreactions on this forum. Yes, we were very poor today and got battered last week by Spurs but does that make Pardew a bad manager? No. The problem he's got is he's becoming a victim of his own success. He's doing very well with what is in reality a limited squad. Today was poor but I really don't think you can blame Pardew "100%" as some people have been saying. We got off to an absolute flyer and then the players who were on the pitch stopped playing football. Alan Pardew cannot put his foot on the ball and pass it to a Newcastle player like Cabaye, Tiote, Jonas etc. should have been doing. Also, to pick up some people's points: The substitutions and people saying why did he think they would work - The substitutions point is totally void because the 2nd goal completely changed the game they were coming into. The subs may have brought more control to the game but 30 seconds after they'd come on the game was a different one and we were chasing the game rather than trying to control it. We'll never know either way Too many defensive limitations on players - I think this is ridiculous. I think someone said HBA looked so concerned about marking that it affected how he played. Every player has a job defensively and if they can't do it then there's little point in playing them. All the best teams have attacking players who have defensive roles. If our players can't handle having defensive duties in addition to their attacking roles then they probably aren't very good players. I'd also just point out that the squad Pardew has to choose from isn't exactly reflective of the 6th place we currently occupy. Williamson and Simpson both definite starters and not good enough. No back-up RB, CB, LB or LW of any real quality. RW we have HBA who can't defend, Obertan who's been very poor and Ryan Taylor who's not a natural winger and is more defensive. In central midfield we have no real strength in depth either. Our backup Striker was Shola today which says it all. Like I said not a good few weeks but let's not go over the top on criticism and remember what a good job Pardew has done to get us to 6th after 26 games.

Pardew will take the stick but it's our midfielders who didn't show up.

Our best player today IMO.

Players just completely lost it after the 2nd goal. Cabaye and Tiote are supposed to run that midfield but were really poor.

If that's a comment on yesterday's performance then take a look at the side Everton put out and then look at ours. 4 of their side were on the bench for the Chelsea game and there are a couple of others who could be considered first team squad players. Whereas ours was genuine reserve/youth team most of whom are leaving at the end of the season.

Could be a decent signing on the cheap. He has the 24th best pass success rate in the Premier League.

Cabaye, Tiote and R.Taylor in for Guthrie, Perch and Obertan.

Aye that's the reason we are getting battered The anti-Obertan dogma is awful on here. He has been very, very poor and was totally at fault for the Assou-Ekotto goal. However, Guthrie and Perch have been at least as bad or worse and will get criticism nowhere near as harsh.

I think it's clear that our starting midfield is too poor for us to have gone 4-4-2 against a team like Spurs. That said people on here would have gone mental had Cisse been dropped for us to play 4-5-1.

What the fuck are Guthrie and Perch doing pllaying that high up the pitch?

3 points behind Chelsea in 4th...

Can't believe we won that. Class finish from Obertan!

The change sounds mad but HBA has been really poor.

How are we winning this?!?

Nervous about tonight. This is a game we should really win but I'm not at all confident in getting goals from either Shola or Best.

Don't think they'll neccessarily be first choice. Article says defender on loan would be for "defensive cover".

Sunday Sun says we'll look at loaning a defender if we can't get Mariappa.

SACK PARDEW GET IN MOU I suppose we're going to need somebody when Pardew goes to manage England...

Very silly there. Going to get banned for that.

I think you've pretty much explained the argument against them starting. 3 games in 8 days which will turn into 5 of 15 if they play against both Blackburn and Villa.

Maybe he thinks Blackburn was a league game?