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Hate to burst the bubble but i didn't look to me as if he was talking specifics. Just said it would be nice if, after two others, we could bring a wow player in.

Some people on here are not looking at the bigger picture. Bolton came to SJP to stifle us, play the long ball and pack their own half. Yet we managed to hold our nerve, stick to our style and get a win that we deserved. We won't have to this every game.

Was just about to post my views on the match but that completely sums up what I was going to say. Then your both talking shite "jonas far too good for us". If thats the way yous feel fuck off and support the mackems. You gave Given a 7 for saving a pen and keeping a clean sheet. Nice one. As for my Jonas comments, you know (or should know) fine well what I mean. He is a player who could comfortably play for a better side than ourselves. Happy now? Or because I don't think we're the best team in the country/continent/world mean I should fuck off? Get a grip lad. Ahem, first of all belittling by using words like "lad" won't work. I gave Given a 7 because despite (as you say) saving a penalty and keeping a clean sheet, his kicking was atrocious. Now there are no rules on how to rate players, so the system is faulted in itself but IMO you rate them for the good things and the negative things. Before the penalty i would have gave him a 6 and after a 7. Perhaps 8 at a push. Secondly, you comment was "far too good for us", which implies that he's too good for the club. Which in my assesment is super bollocks. However, what i now believe you mean is that he is our best player, which would be fair comment but like i said, that's simply not how i read it. I mean exactly it how I explained it. He could very comfortably play at a higher level (e.g. Champions League club/Good UEFA cup standard team) If we don't reach the higher level (get back into Europe, basically) and he continues to impress, a bigger club will no doubt come in for him. Whether he goes or not would be another discussion. But that's getting ahead of ourselves considering he's played 2 competitive games for us. To go back to your ratings, fair enough, Shay's distribution was horrible, but using your negatives/positives thing, you're giving him the same rating as Taylor, who conceded the penalty (there's a negative) and at one stage tripped on the ball under no pressure and had to haul his man down. Then there's the incident mentioned somewhere else where he had all the time in the world to take a touch and pass it out of defence but instead he chose to smash it out for a throw in. I'm not saying he was awful by any means, I'm just using him as a comparison for the Given rating. As for "belittling" words like lad, telling me to "fuck off and support the mackems" is what exactly? If i thought for a second that anyone of our fans believe any player was bigger than the club then i'd tell them to fuck off. However, i do realise that was not what you meant so i will apoligise.

Taylor, Guthrie and Milner seem to be the main talking points. Taylor- I actually thought Taylor was pretty good throughout. Not the standard of Coloccini but i don't think there were many cock-up's, if any. Haven't seen the replay of the pen but it looked similar to the dying swan. Overall, hardly a criminal performance, still unsure of his potential. Guthrie- The lad got overran today, no doubt but there were reasons. First, he started off terribly, gave the ball away, slipped over and clearly lost abit of confidence. As well as this, his chances of getting on the ball were halved by the fact Bolton bypassed the midfield (as usual). Similar to Taylor, hardly had a criminal performance but did very little to effect the game at either end. Milner- Is a funny one. On the one hand, sometimes the ball looks tied to his foot, never gives the ball away (which can't be underestimated) and works his socks off for the cause. On the other, he fannies about something cronic, he moves left and right more times than a slalom. Because of this, the moment passes and chance is made harder. Today we very much saw little bits of both. In the first half, on the right he was very poor but when he was played up front he looked twice the player and i thought did very well. I'd like to see him behind a striker a couple more times (only if forced).

Was just about to post my views on the match but that completely sums up what I was going to say. Then your both talking shite "jonas far too good for us". If thats the way yous feel fuck off and support the mackems. You gave Given a 7 for saving a pen and keeping a clean sheet. Nice one. As for my Jonas comments, you know (or should know) fine well what I mean. He is a player who could comfortably play for a better side than ourselves. Happy now? Or because I don't think we're the best team in the country/continent/world mean I should fuck off? Get a grip lad. Ahem, first of all belittling by using words like "lad" won't work. I gave Given a 7 because despite (as you say) saving a penalty and keeping a clean sheet, his kicking was atrocious. Now there are no rules on how to rate players, so the system is faulted in itself but IMO you rate them for the good things and the negative things. Before the penalty i would have gave him a 6 and after a 7. Perhaps 8 at a push. Secondly, you comment was "far too good for us", which implies that he's too good for the club. Which in my assesment is super bollocks. However, what i now believe you mean is that he is our best player, which would be fair comment but like i said, that's simply not how i read it.

Was just about to post my views on the match but that completely sums up what I was going to say. Then your both talking shite "jonas far too good for us". If thats the way yous feel fuck off and support the mackems.

Bolton were disgraceful yet again. Everytime they come up here i can't help feeling that we will perform better against the teams that actually try and play football. Diving, fouling, long ball scum. Well done lads, hard work and good ethics paid off in the end.

Given- 7 Kicking was poor but there when needed Beye-7 Did well, better in the second half Coloccini- 9 Dominated Taylor- 7 Did well Zoggy-7 Great attacking, suspect at the back Milner- 7 Was fantastic through the middle, not great on the right Butt- 7 Good long range passes Guthrie- 6 Out battled IMO Jonas- 8 Looked good Duff- 5 Shite Martins- 6 No service Geremi- 8 Changed the game Owen- 8 Got his goal Thoughts; Football 1-0 Anti football

Going to get there for 10, even then there will be a massive wait no doubt.

Same here. I'm just going to go in early and use the letter to get the second ticket.

It came, thank fuck.

Senderos Larsson Saviola

A few points to make. 1. I doubt many of the other teams out of the top 4 could have attracted Colo. Spurs aside. 2. Big Names? Irrelevant. 3. Content with Guthrie in the first team. He got KK's MOM praise againt the best side in europe. 4. Bentley was a good signing for Spurs but so far Jonas has looked great for a 1/4 of the price. 5. If we were punching above our weight we would not have got players, therefore it's a contradiction. 6. The clubs lowered it's expectation. Absolute fiction. That means you knew what it's expectations were in the market, which is impossible to say.

This season was never going to be about who we sign but what we did with the players that we already have. If KK does his magic with those players, then we can finish in a healthy position.

The first time since SBR that we have someone in charge whom we can trust. Hopefully he can make 4 or 5 years, that would be terrific.

Like i said above. Any chance i could get my ticket tommorow if i went in with the correct documents? It says in the announcement on the official website that you should go before Saturday to collect a paper ticket if you're worried about your ST not arriving on time. I would imagine all you would need really is your ST number, but just to be on the safe side take last seasons, plus any letters with regards to this seasons ST if you have any, and maybe a form of ID. You probably won't need all that though. Oh aye, and ask them for your f***ing travel money for the inconvenience. You see the problem is that it's my dad's ST, so ID would bollocks it up. The parents fly abroad tommorow, that's why it's worse for me. Hopefully, those papers will do. I'm sure I read somewhere that you wouldn't need ID. I think they're well aware that half the people in the stadium use tickets without their names on. I got mine today too. Roll on Saturday :colo: Fingers crossed your right. I don't care what happens, i'm going regardless.

Completely agree. I'm expecting 15 premiership goals from him at least. If he could get 20 that would be remarkable.

What's irritating me the most is that i'm 99% sure the ST will arrive tommorow but i'm not willing to chance a ticket over 1%.

Like i said above. Any chance i could get my ticket tommorow if i went in with the correct documents? It says in the announcement on the official website that you should go before Saturday to collect a paper ticket if you're worried about your ST not arriving on time. I would imagine all you would need really is your ST number, but just to be on the safe side take last seasons, plus any letters with regards to this seasons ST if you have any, and maybe a form of ID. You probably won't need all that though. Oh aye, and ask them for your fucking travel money for the inconvenience. You see the problem is that it's my dad's ST, so ID would bollocks it up. The parents fly abroad tommorow, that's why it's worse for me. Hopefully, those papers will do.

Like i said above. Any chance i could get my ticket tommorow if i went in with the correct documents?

In his first time round his ability to sell the club to players was second to none.

What does that have to do with Newcastle?

If i decided to take a trip into SJP tommorow in order to get my ticket guarenteed what documents would i need? Last year's season ticket, the letter that they sent? Can anyone help, needless to say it didn't arrive today!

I agree. SBR even said he would have been willing to do that. If he's here for the full 3 years he's been successfull.

There is one sensible mackem: "They have signed two Argentinian internationals....We loved our Argentinian who couldn't make their national squad........Their first team had better individuals on paper but didn't gel as a team and suffered with injuries and players being absent.......I can't see how we they are a spent force, they are just being more particular than they once were. Let's not get carried away and start looking like twats.....we really should know better."