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One thing I've noticed in his many interviews this week is the phrase 'I can't claim to speak for all the fans' He knows we think he's a joke, and doesn't care

Darren Bent. Reckon he is going to have a Les Ferdinand 95-96 season for someone next year. It would improve the team replacing Owen with Bent, no matter how better Owen may be individually

Precisely, and doesn't that prove the point that different people measure it by different things, and that they relate most to things they've seen? I've seen with my own eyes my club win the League and the European Cup. Does it bother me that it was before 1992? Nope. Is it lessened by the fact it was before 1992? Nope. A 20 yr old Villa fan would have a different outlook entirely, probably, but that's not really surprising. Tbh I think we are saying the same thing in different ways!

Wow you've found another loser that bases it on stadium size and the amount of times you filled the stadium . One guy on their actually describes Newcastle as a "giant" club with only one person on their questioning him mackems.gif. Say something enough times and loud enough it becomes fact. Fact!

Why's that then? Why, say, is 1991 any more than one year less relevant? If you take it that way, then Liverpool are a bit of a nothing club too, as they haven't won the "new" league. That's the problem with the entire "big club" argument, everyone has their own criteria, everyone has their own time limitations, everyone has their own interpretation. Personally, i just want my club to be successful. Champions League formation, Premier League Branding, Sky money, Bosman. Completely different playing field compared to the 80s and back. And yes, since the Premier Eague inception Liverpool are a very successful cup team, less successful as a league team - which is a better measue of consistent quality (imo) And personally I don't care what we may have won in the 60s, I'm only bothered about what my team have done in my life time. I'm sure some Liverpool fans (especially those under 30) would swap their 70's or 80's record with Man Uniteds 90's record purely as they would have been around/old enough to appreciate it

Not entirely sure that the big four is "press created". Since the Premier League began in 1992, English clubs have won 66 trophies, using the widest definition of the word (so including Premier League, FA Cup, League Cup, Community Shield, Champions League, UEFA Cup, Cup Winners' Cup and European Supercup). Of those 66 trophies: Manchester United have won 20. Arsenal have won 14. Chelsea have won 11. Liverpool have won 11. Everone else combined have won 10, as follows: Aston Villa 2 (League Cups) Blackburn Rovers 2 (Premier League, League Cup) Everton 2 (FA Cup, Community Shield) Leicester City 2 (League Cups) Middlesborough 1 (League Cup) Tottenham Hotspurs 1 (League Cup) so if people want to talk about "bigness" by virtue of what they win, nobody outside the big four has a leg to stand on. Also, if we're using this criteria, the second tier of English football consists of Blackburn, Everton, Villa and Leicester. That's assuming you accept the day Sky got the rights as the day football was invented, of course. Modern day football. Its a different game since the 90's. Whilst I agree that pre 92 records have a great deal of bearing on a clubs status and history, the post 92 records are what defines the game today

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No, you've got it wrong. Owen's people can't talk to SSN because they are currently held in Alan Olivers queue, its a busy day today with representatives of all of the managers in the world wanting to tell AO that they haven't spoken to NUFC, but would be interested in doing so. They'll be on later this evening

Lets just hope that Man U are winning with 1 minute to go and a Sheffield United player hits a dodgy back pass which allows Wigan to win, sending West Ham down on goals scored

Thing is, we now have a chance to come out of a very embarrasing 2-3 year period for the club and to take the club in a new direction. If losing Owen and making a loss, combined with taking a hit on Luque, Bramble, Carr etc lets the club move forward with a clean slate and gives us greater room for transfer activity then take the hit and move on. There are other 15-20 goal a season strikers available for less than we are paying for Owen (in terms of fee and wages)

ITK's are saying that Spurs will announce next week (when the Premiership season has ended) that Bent will be joining when the window opens. £8/9m is what they're saying. How accurate that is we'll find out next week. Why would they wait till next week though? You can sign a player whenever you want, the transfer just gets finalised in the next window. I'd have thought something like this would be in all the papers now if it was signed sealed and awaiting delivery

Solid back 3 you have there... Don't forget the 2 wingers (one getting on a bit, one in huff) supporting them! Feeling in a sadistic mood this week, fancied a laugh on Sunday

If we sell Owen for £9mil and remove £100k per week from the wage bill and Luque goes on Loan saving £20-40k per week (depending on the arrangement), and then we get in Darren Bent for £8-10m on £30k per week its a good deal for the club. I'd even cosider someone like Anelka (being quick, has a footballing brain and knows where the goal is) for the right price as a replacement. Fit Owen = 20 goals a season Fit Bent = 15 goals a season (12 this season in a relegated team) Would Owen be fit for long enough to get 20 goals though? Darren Bent - the next Les Ferdinand!

Harper Gooch, Ramage, Bramble Solano Zoggy Parker, Butt Milner Owen, Martins Why not try something new!

http://www.football365.com/story/0,17033,8652_2116476,00.html Staying at PSV

You seriously think Liverpool didn't get any luck in winning the Chmpions League?

On Metro news now Sven, Houllier and Sam interested Nothing new, no quotes or owt

Its a disgrace that Wembley is going to be loaned out to a club for 2-3 years. Completely devalues it as a stage for cup finals etc. What happens if Spurs get to a cup final/ FA cup semi final. Are we going to move the game to Cardiff or Old Trafford to remain neutral? They should ground share with Charlton, the addicks could do with the extra revenue

first of all he says we have no chance getting hiddink in, but then says we have a chance of getting the likes of lippi, hitzfeld etc. Poor comparison there. Hiddink is unofficially on the Chelsea payroll, not a chance of him going anywhere. again, you know this how? OK, got me - just putting 2 and 2 together from the multiple stories in the majority of the papers that Roman was funding the Russia managers post if they got Hiddink in. I can't prove it, you can't disprove it, lets leave it as an unsubstantiated rumour

Poor comparisi first of all he says we have no chance getting hiddink in, but then says we have a chance of getting the likes of lippi, hitzfeld etc. Poor comparison there. Hiddink is unofficially on the Chelsea payroll, not a chance of him going anywhere.

Bjarni Gudjonsson? Its blatently Shearer after Botox and a new wig

What? Bringing on a twelfth man without the officials noticing you mean? Even better is switching from 9 men to 12 men. Coach HTT must have graduated from the Souness school of tactical know how

I might be wrong, but I thought that if news broke when the LSE was closed, they simply have to notify once it is open. I'm fairly sure we are AIM listed nyway, lot less stringent on the rules in there

Do you reckon that the only person who hasn't heard yet is Glenn? Edit: The sacking version of dumping by text - sacking via message board rumour

Courtney coming up soon on talksport. Expecting a good game here