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was gonna chomp but this is surely a piss take I hate this Barcelona w***-fest, was a complete farce today. They were completely toothless in attack, all these great players and one shot on goal and barely a sniff at their home ground. I thought there superb passing moves can tear apart anything.. obviously not. Over-rated. Surely a Man Utd win. You obviously haven't watched them this season then? actually i've just noticed this bit in bold :lol: :lol: dude has been arguing with me for an hour that they tactically contained a team who are "toothless" in attack priceless ye and you would argue that one shot on goal, chasing the game for 80 minutes is good priceless aye, not as good as the team who've scored the most goals overall in europe and the CL being toothless in attack You say that but they scored 1 goal from there one shot on target today when they were chasing the game for 80 minutes lol. No defense there really is there, my toothless comment was pretty fitting on yesterdays performance.

was gonna chomp but this is surely a piss take I hate this Barcelona w***-fest, was a complete farce today. They were completely toothless in attack, all these great players and one shot on goal and barely a sniff at their home ground. I thought there superb passing moves can tear apart anything.. obviously not. Over-rated. Surely a Man Utd win. You obviously haven't watched them this season then? actually i've just noticed this bit in bold :lol: :lol: dude has been arguing with me for an hour that they tactically contained a team who are "toothless" in attack priceless ye and you would argue that one shot on goal, chasing the game for 80 minutes is good priceless aye, not as good as the team who've scored the most goals overall in europe and the CL being toothless in attack Er Bayern have hardly been good this year if you think that result was special. Check some of Bayerns domestic games under Klinsmann. As your so in tune with European football.

are you mental? chelsea were spot on but the only thing lacking was goals, the week before barca battered them and didn't score but they're toothless in a attack? what gives man, are you trying to contradict yourself? Are you thick? Pretty simple. First leg i said Chelsea showed them too much respect set up too defensively, Barcelona were easily contained. Battered hardly! Chelsea were quite comfortable and tactics did get a result for them and should of nicked a goal with Drogba. Now a early goal at Stamford Bridge, winning position, know opposition going to over commit and suspect defense, counter attacking play = good tactics. That too comprehend. Jesus wept.

was gonna chomp but this is surely a piss take I hate this Barcelona w***-fest, was a complete farce today. They were completely toothless in attack, all these great players and one shot on goal and barely a sniff at their home ground. I thought there superb passing moves can tear apart anything.. obviously not. Over-rated. Surely a Man Utd win. You obviously haven't watched them this season then? actually i've just noticed this bit in bold :lol: :lol: dude has been arguing with me for an hour that they tactically contained a team who are "toothless" in attack priceless ye and you would argue that one shot on goal, chasing the game for 80 minutes is good priceless

was gonna chomp but this is surely a piss take I hate this Barcelona w***-fest, was a complete farce today. They were completely toothless in attack, all these great players and one shot on goal and barely a sniff at their home ground. I thought there superb passing moves can tear apart anything.. obviously not. Over-rated. Surely a Man Utd win. You obviously haven't watched them this season then? English Premier League > La Liga. Whole world seems to think so too. Plus 3 English teams in semi finals, would of been 4 if Liverpool haven't have played Chelsea i reckon. Suggests standard is better in this country. When Barcelona faced a good English team they should of got knocked out.

oh sorry, we were discussing juve vs milan in this particular bit weren't we? they're italian in case it escaped your notice Nope. That was actually you saying PL teams cant defend 90% of the time. Shambolic was the word. Its an art form when Italian teams do it, but when Chelsea are winning their tie, and counter attack the opponents its anti football funny that. go back and look at when i referenced 90%, it was the milan/juve game as for chelsea yeah i agree with you, the way they do it is anti-football thanks for agreeing with me - there's a distinct difference between the way italian teams defend and the way chelsea defend that's for sure glad you've seen the light Way to twist my words to suit your argument, if thats what you resorted to. Your probably embarrassed about pretty much every point you made for last 30 minutes. And nope your sentence was oh, so i wasn't talking about the juve/milan final when i said it? my mistake i'm not embarrassed mate, i just see subtle differences where you don't and to be honest i've slightly been on the wind up about chelsea but i'll try and outline the difference i see the italians (and the spanish to a large degree) consider defending a massive part of their game, we do not historically...the italians can see a triumph in a well executed 0-0 whereas to the english it's largely seen as a failure, excitement is our aim essentially the italian style is about positioning and tactics more than anything else but this contrasts with the way english teams set up imo - they set up to dominate physically as a priority, it's currently more about booting people off the ball than anything else but it's changing, managers like hiddink are certainly changing that anyways chelsea and liverpool are really the only teams who play this way, arsenal and man u don't and no-one else gets the chance in the PL if, however, you feel the standard of defending in the PL as a whole is good then i'd get yourself away to football school for a crash course What are you on about that's clearly a reference to PL as i'm the one whos saying its the best in the world. Which it is. PL defenses being shambolic is quite something, when Spanish teams are twice as bad. 6-2 last week just wow. No wonder our Colo was considered a good defender there. wow, staggering, i'll try and help you out though C-O-N-T-R-A-S-T-I-N-G S-T-Y-L-E-S BOOM!! there you go Where defenders dont have to head, run, read the game or bully strikers Ok ah, i'll rephrase to "Where defenders dont have to exclusively head, run, and rely on bullying strikers" also, why isn't this working in reverse then? if the spanish defenders are so bad why didn't chelski (or man u last year) simply go to the nou camp and obliterate them? doesn't make sense following your logic, nor does both teams setting up very defensively against barca if they were so bad in defence and both english teams defences are so good, does it? Because they confident of containing Barcelona - which they did - and were always looking to counter as they leave themselves super exposed. They throw too many men forward, Chelsea should of scored more today. Chelsea had their tactics spot on.. got screwed by the referee. Which you will now probably attempt to defend too. barca were screwed out of a penalty in the first leg, just to balance things out for you where chelsea had about one shot and barca 20 or something, the very same stats you were taking the piss out of barca for last night!! also patently they didn't have their tactics spot on 'cause they lost you've not answered my question though - why did both teams approach barca in this manner if their defence is so bad and why did barca only concede 2 goals in 4 games against them if their defence is so s***? and before you ask why barca only scored 1 goal you've already answered it - both teams set up to stop them playing rather than playing themselves Now your just making stuff up. Chelsea had 1 shot on target only thing you got right in that whole post. Drogba one on one with the keeper, as Barca defense were beyond a joke. Hiddink paid Barcelona too much respect first game, was nothing clinical about them. That whole XX amount of games scoring, didnt hold much water. Stamford bridge Chelsea got the early goal, didn't need another. Didn't need an open game as they can shut them out and counter attack which they did well imo. The referee screwed them on more then one occasion. If Chelsea needed to attack been a different game. eh? what have i made up like? that's just you making things up resorting to "the referee robbed" them s***, honestly...is that like when chelsea went through at barca's expense after a blatant foul on the keeper or is that not counted as a screwing? what goes around comes around you also said their tactics were "spot on" yet they "gave them too much respect first game"? make your mind up dude 0-0 suggests they didnt lose, that result away from home is good for a semi final first leg nope? Tactics spot on comment were more for the match yesterday, where they didnt need to attack, just let Barcelona over commit men forward and counterattack them, only thing lacking was the goals. I suppose the job to contain and counter is easier when up against a toothless attack like what was shown tonight.

oh sorry, we were discussing juve vs milan in this particular bit weren't we? they're italian in case it escaped your notice Nope. That was actually you saying PL teams cant defend 90% of the time. Shambolic was the word. Its an art form when Italian teams do it, but when Chelsea are winning their tie, and counter attack the opponents its anti football funny that. go back and look at when i referenced 90%, it was the milan/juve game as for chelsea yeah i agree with you, the way they do it is anti-football thanks for agreeing with me - there's a distinct difference between the way italian teams defend and the way chelsea defend that's for sure glad you've seen the light Way to twist my words to suit your argument, if thats what you resorted to. Your probably embarrassed about pretty much every point you made for last 30 minutes. And nope your sentence was oh, so i wasn't talking about the juve/milan final when i said it? my mistake i'm not embarrassed mate, i just see subtle differences where you don't and to be honest i've slightly been on the wind up about chelsea but i'll try and outline the difference i see the italians (and the spanish to a large degree) consider defending a massive part of their game, we do not historically...the italians can see a triumph in a well executed 0-0 whereas to the english it's largely seen as a failure, excitement is our aim essentially the italian style is about positioning and tactics more than anything else but this contrasts with the way english teams set up imo - they set up to dominate physically as a priority, it's currently more about booting people off the ball than anything else but it's changing, managers like hiddink are certainly changing that anyways chelsea and liverpool are really the only teams who play this way, arsenal and man u don't and no-one else gets the chance in the PL if, however, you feel the standard of defending in the PL as a whole is good then i'd get yourself away to football school for a crash course What are you on about that's clearly a reference to PL as i'm the one whos saying its the best in the world. Which it is. PL defenses being shambolic is quite something, when Spanish teams are twice as bad. 6-2 last week just wow. No wonder our Colo was considered a good defender there. wow, staggering, i'll try and help you out though C-O-N-T-R-A-S-T-I-N-G S-T-Y-L-E-S BOOM!! there you go Where defenders dont have to head, run, read the game or bully strikers Ok ah, i'll rephrase to "Where defenders dont have to exclusively head, run, and rely on bullying strikers" also, why isn't this working in reverse then? if the spanish defenders are so bad why didn't chelski (or man u last year) simply go to the nou camp and obliterate them? doesn't make sense following your logic, nor does both teams setting up very defensively against barca if they were so bad in defence and both english teams defences are so good, does it? Because they confident of containing Barcelona - which they did - and were always looking to counter as they leave themselves super exposed. They throw too many men forward, Chelsea should of scored more today. Chelsea had their tactics spot on.. got screwed by the referee. Which you will now probably attempt to defend too. barca were screwed out of a penalty in the first leg, just to balance things out for you where chelsea had about one shot and barca 20 or something, the very same stats you were taking the piss out of barca for last night!! also patently they didn't have their tactics spot on 'cause they lost you've not answered my question though - why did both teams approach barca in this manner if their defence is so bad and why did barca only concede 2 goals in 4 games against them if their defence is so s***? and before you ask why barca only scored 1 goal you've already answered it - both teams set up to stop them playing rather than playing themselves Now your just making stuff up. Chelsea had 1 shot on target only thing you got right in that whole post. Drogba one on one with the keeper, as Barca defense were beyond a joke. Hiddink paid Barcelona too much respect first game, was nothing clinical about them. That whole XX amount of games scoring, didnt hold much water. Stamford bridge Chelsea got the early goal, didn't need another. Didn't need an open game as they can shut them out and counter attack which they did well imo. The referee screwed them on more then one occasion. If Chelsea needed to attack been a different game.

oh sorry, we were discussing juve vs milan in this particular bit weren't we? they're italian in case it escaped your notice Nope. That was actually you saying PL teams cant defend 90% of the time. Shambolic was the word. Its an art form when Italian teams do it, but when Chelsea are winning their tie, and counter attack the opponents its anti football funny that. go back and look at when i referenced 90%, it was the milan/juve game as for chelsea yeah i agree with you, the way they do it is anti-football thanks for agreeing with me - there's a distinct difference between the way italian teams defend and the way chelsea defend that's for sure glad you've seen the light Way to twist my words to suit your argument, if thats what you resorted to. Your probably embarrassed about pretty much every point you made for last 30 minutes. And nope your sentence was oh, so i wasn't talking about the juve/milan final when i said it? my mistake i'm not embarrassed mate, i just see subtle differences where you don't and to be honest i've slightly been on the wind up about chelsea but i'll try and outline the difference i see the italians (and the spanish to a large degree) consider defending a massive part of their game, we do not historically...the italians can see a triumph in a well executed 0-0 whereas to the english it's largely seen as a failure, excitement is our aim essentially the italian style is about positioning and tactics more than anything else but this contrasts with the way english teams set up imo - they set up to dominate physically as a priority, it's currently more about booting people off the ball than anything else but it's changing, managers like hiddink are certainly changing that anyways chelsea and liverpool are really the only teams who play this way, arsenal and man u don't and no-one else gets the chance in the PL if, however, you feel the standard of defending in the PL as a whole is good then i'd get yourself away to football school for a crash course What are you on about that's clearly a reference to PL as i'm the one whos saying its the best in the world. Which it is. PL defenses being shambolic is quite something, when Spanish teams are twice as bad. 6-2 last week just wow. No wonder our Colo was considered a good defender there. wow, staggering, i'll try and help you out though C-O-N-T-R-A-S-T-I-N-G S-T-Y-L-E-S BOOM!! there you go Where defenders dont have to head, run, read the game or bully strikers Ok ah, i'll rephrase to "Where defenders dont have to exclusively head, run, and rely on bullying strikers" also, why isn't this working in reverse then? if the spanish defenders are so bad why didn't chelski (or man u last year) simply go to the nou camp and obliterate them? doesn't make sense following your logic, nor does both teams setting up very defensively against barca if they were so bad in defence and both english teams defences are so good, does it? Because they were confident of containing Barcelona - which they did - and were always looking to counter as they leave themselves super exposed + weak defense. They throw too many men forward, Chelsea should of scored more today. Chelsea had their tactics spot on.. got screwed by the referee. Which you will now probably attempt to defend too.

oh sorry, we were discussing juve vs milan in this particular bit weren't we? they're italian in case it escaped your notice Nope. That was actually you saying PL teams cant defend 90% of the time. Shambolic was the word. Its an art form when Italian teams do it, but when Chelsea are winning their tie, and counter attack the opponents its anti football funny that. go back and look at when i referenced 90%, it was the milan/juve game as for chelsea yeah i agree with you, the way they do it is anti-football thanks for agreeing with me - there's a distinct difference between the way italian teams defend and the way chelsea defend that's for sure glad you've seen the light Way to twist my words to suit your argument, if thats what you resorted to. Your probably embarrassed about pretty much every point you made for last 30 minutes. And nope your sentence was oh, so i wasn't talking about the juve/milan final when i said it? my mistake i'm not embarrassed mate, i just see subtle differences where you don't and to be honest i've slightly been on the wind up about chelsea but i'll try and outline the difference i see the italians (and the spanish to a large degree) consider defending a massive part of their game, we do not historically...the italians can see a triumph in a well executed 0-0 whereas to the english it's largely seen as a failure, excitement is our aim essentially the italian style is about positioning and tactics more than anything else but this contrasts with the way english teams set up imo - they set up to dominate physically as a priority, it's currently more about booting people off the ball than anything else but it's changing, managers like hiddink are certainly changing that anyways chelsea and liverpool are really the only teams who play this way, arsenal and man u don't and no-one else gets the chance in the PL if, however, you feel the standard of defending in the PL as a whole is good then i'd get yourself away to football school for a crash course What are you on about that's clearly a reference to PL as i'm the one whos saying its the best in the world. Which it is. PL defenses being shambolic is quite something, when Spanish teams are twice as bad. 6-2 last week just wow. No wonder our Colo was considered a good defender there. wow, staggering, i'll try and help you out though C-O-N-T-R-A-S-T-I-N-G S-T-Y-L-E-S BOOM!! there you go Where defenders dont have to head, run, read the game or bully strikers Ok

oh sorry, we were discussing juve vs milan in this particular bit weren't we? they're italian in case it escaped your notice Nope. That was actually you saying PL teams cant defend 90% of the time. Shambolic was the word. Its an art form when Italian teams do it, but when Chelsea are winning their tie, and counter attack the opponents its anti football funny that. go back and look at when i referenced 90%, it was the milan/juve game as for chelsea yeah i agree with you, the way they do it is anti-football thanks for agreeing with me - there's a distinct difference between the way italian teams defend and the way chelsea defend that's for sure glad you've seen the light Way to twist my words to suit your argument, if thats what you resorted to. Your probably embarrassed about pretty much every point you made for last 30 minutes. And nope your sentence was oh, so i wasn't talking about the juve/milan final when i said it? my mistake i'm not embarrassed mate, i just see subtle differences where you don't and to be honest i've slightly been on the wind up about chelsea but i'll try and outline the difference i see the italians (and the spanish to a large degree) consider defending a massive part of their game, we do not historically...the italians can see a triumph in a well executed 0-0 whereas to the english it's largely seen as a failure, excitement is our aim essentially the italian style is about positioning and tactics more than anything else but this contrasts with the way english teams set up imo - they set up to dominate physically as a priority, it's currently more about booting people off the ball than anything else but it's changing, managers like hiddink are certainly changing that anyways chelsea and liverpool are really the only teams who play this way, arsenal and man u don't and no-one else gets the chance in the PL if, however, you feel the standard of defending in the PL as a whole is good then i'd get yourself away to football school for a crash course What are you on about that's clearly a reference to PL as i'm the one whos saying its the best in the world. Which it is. PL defenses being shambolic is quite something, when Spanish teams are twice as bad. 6-2 last week just wow. No wonder our Colo was considered a good defender there.

since it began it's been won 3 times by English teams (the same as Real Madrid have won it), which includes liverpools luckiest win in the history of football, but that's by the by works out at 2 wins in the last 5 years or 3 in 10/16 total domination, yeah COME ON THE PL!!!! 3 teams in semis this year, all english final last, liverpool and arsenal made finals before that. So thats 5 english teams in the final in the past 4 years. More than other countries nooo? That maybe so! but look at most of the players in those squads, not many English there, are there? Interesting argument against my post... when I have never mentioned players nationality.

oh sorry, we were discussing juve vs milan in this particular bit weren't we? they're italian in case it escaped your notice Nope. That was actually you saying PL teams cant defend 90% of the time. Shambolic was the word. Its an art form when Italian teams do it, but when Chelsea are winning their tie, and counter attack the opponents its anti football funny that. go back and look at when i referenced 90%, it was the milan/juve game as for chelsea yeah i agree with you, the way they do it is anti-football thanks for agreeing with me - there's a distinct difference between the way italian teams defend and the way chelsea defend that's for sure glad you've seen the light Way to twist my words to suit your argument, if thats what you resorted to. Your probably embarrassed about pretty much every point you made for last 30 minutes. And nope your sentence was

oh sorry, we were discussing juve vs milan in this particular bit weren't we? they're italian in case it escaped your notice Nope. That was actually you saying PL teams cant defend 90% of the time. Shambolic was the word. Its an art form when Italian teams do it, but when Chelsea are winning their tie, and counter attack the opponents its anti football funny that.

since it began it's been won 3 times by English teams (the same as Real Madrid have won it), which includes liverpools luckiest win in the history of football, but that's by the by works out at 2 wins in the last 5 years or 3 in 10/16 total domination, yeah COME ON THE PL!!!! 3 teams in semis this year, all english final last, liverpool and arsenal made finals before that. So thats 5 english teams in the final in the past 4 years. More than other countries nooo?

90% of the time shambolic.. you dont even watch La Liga do you Real Madrid vs Barca you miss that did you, take off your spanish tinted glasses man.

wasn't last years CL final widely regarded as the worst since the CL began? go Premier League What are you on about You never saw AC Milan and Juventus, just stop it, that's utter nonsense. actually i did see it, and remember it very very well because it was an excellent tactical battle and a good game (SBR doing the commenting at the time on TV said the same thing as it happens) take off your english rose (see what i did there) tinted glasses man, it's pathetic the best team will win man utd vs barca and that's all there is to it No one and i mean no one liked that game, pretty sure when i was watching the commentators were a bit fed up with it too. aye righto, it was a lesson in the art of defending mate, there are many elements to the game of football - you stick to your "best league in the world" guns though where the defending is f***ing shambolic >90% of the time so why you say Chelsea was anti-football when in fact they counter-attacked pretty well imo, and the 'superior' team couldnt do anything about it. No art in that.

Oo can national teams take part in la liga or the premier league or maybe the champions league now?

wasn't last years CL final widely regarded as the worst since the CL began? go Premier League What are you on about You never saw AC Milan and Juventus, just stop it, that's utter nonsense. by the way, i've said this elsewhere but if the PL is so f***ing good what's with Italy being World champions and Spain European champions? as the PL pisses all over la liga you'd expect this to be reflected somehow, no? or could it just be that in two leg games the pace imposed by PL teams overcomes the superior ability/quality of LL teams? don't say it too loud though!! You answered your own question.. Premier League is so good. England national team isn't even in the equation really is it? I just know that English teams dominate Europe and have been for a while now.

wasn't last years CL final widely regarded as the worst since the CL began? go Premier League What are you on about You never saw AC Milan and Juventus, just stop it, that's utter nonsense. actually i did see it, and remember it very very well because it was an excellent tactical battle and a good game (SBR doing the commenting at the time on TV said the same thing as it happens) take off your english rose (see what i did there) tinted glasses man, it's pathetic the best team will win man utd vs barca and that's all there is to it No one and i mean no one liked that game, pretty sure when i was watching the commentators were a bit fed up with it too.

wasn't last years CL final widely regarded as the worst since the CL began? go Premier League What are you on about You never saw AC Milan and Juventus, just stop it, that's utter nonsense.

absolute s**** on so many levels as for the "amazingly lucky" part when the English sneak a win these days in Europe it's called doing well tactically, funny how that doesn't work for the foreigners eh? chelsea are one of the most defensively organised and physical teams in European top flight football and they play on a small, narrow pitch at Stamford bridge that denies visitors room to play much like Highbury did for arsenal, it doesn't surprise me that they only got a shot on target last night thing is, it went in, f*** chelsea Well its true. Liverpool vs Real this year, was pretty conclusive. Chelsea should of gone through today, they had more chances just bad refereeing let them down. Barcelona didnt even look like scoring at all, not once. Probably Cech easiest game of the year, with so much 'techical' ability, surely they could muster up more than single shot on target.. nope. 3 PL teams in the semi's.. should of been a all english final for the second year in a row. Not that the premier league is superior or anything ..

was gonna chomp but this is surely a piss take I hate this Barcelona w***-fest, was a complete farce today. They were completely toothless in attack, all these great players and one shot on goal and barely a sniff at their home ground. I thought there superb passing moves can tear apart anything.. obviously not. Over-rated. Surely a Man Utd win. best two teams on the planet, what's the f***ing problem? chelsea tried to stop them playing and it almost worked anti-football can very often beat football you know? we have been a great example of this in the past, doesn't mean people shouldn't have lauded us for sticking to pure attacking football principles anyway you the PL all you want, for me the PL is the Oasis of world football (successful but classless and brutish)...spanish football is Blur (all the talent but a bit foppish and less brash so they don't get noticed as much) PL They played counter attacking football, they knew Barca had to attack them. Not anti-football. I wouldnt call 70% possession but one shot on goal great either. Premier League pisses over la liga from a great height, Barca amazingly lucky tonight, sheer freak miracle. Any other referee be a different and imo better final.

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was gonna chomp but this is surely a piss take I hate this Barcelona w***-fest, was a complete farce today. They were completely toothless in attack, all these great players and one shot on goal and barely a sniff at their home ground. I thought there superb passing moves can tear apart anything.. obviously not. Over-rated. Surely a Man Utd win.

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