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Phil Thompson just shot his load all over the Sky camera's. I hate the twat.

Do we really need a new thread on this twat?

That's a shite bench. If we're not winning by the hour mark then we've about had it. Not sure I agree with that. Solano will still give his all and Ameobi, with his bigger physique these days, can hustle their defence. Whilst Cacapa should give us a reliable option if a Defender is lost through injury. Agree, it's not ideal but I've seen a lot worse.

Has the line-up defo been confirmed?

Why? Not only is it shite, it doesn't even rhyme and it's not even remotely humerous. Other than that.........yeah lets do it.

Thats quality - we need to get it going at the Ground.

Sniffed around but there was nothing concrete I believe. For me only Derby are really weaker than Sunderland on paper. For me Wigan and Brimingham's attacking options are better than ours, while I reckon the likes of Fulham and Boro have stronger defences than us. However as I've mentioned before, in my opinion any other season and this team would be a cert for relegation. But this year we seem to be in luck at just how poor the teams I expect to see around us are. And so I do believe there is still chance but I just think that we have a Championship class squad, with the possible exceptions of Richardson and Gordon). I do agree, riches, that investment in January could be vital and I think we are in the fortunate position o having a board that does seem willing to plough cash into transfers. SAFC, Your right about the Board. For all the talk and press articles around Keane, for me Quinny will be your star asset this season. He'll invest when previous Boards wouldn't. That could be your saviour.

Basically I agree with this. He will be away at the end of the season anyway once we've gone down. Who goes down will depend on who invests in the best way in January imo. For those struggling, which incidentally I think Sunderland will, the key to their survival will be investment in Jan. That might keep you up.

I bet he's got a load of clauses for when they go down. If he's as good as people say he is, then he'll not be there long. Fact.

Gordon will have a long way to go to prove he's better than Given who, IMO, has proved himself top top class during his time with Newcastle.

Really happy. I'm pleased that we haven't gone down the trophy signing route and paid sensible prices for very solid players. I've also got an air of excitement about the new lads who I've never seen before. Theres something I love about the transfer windows where you sign unknown players for a decent fee. The potential to unearth an awesome player is brilliant and the best thing about the summer break for me. I'd love to see Enrique or Rozenthal or someone just turn out to be immense. Quality.

Well early, but what the hey. I would think he'd start Butt in the middle. Don't know who he would drop for him out of your starting XI mind. Maybe Solano instead of Carr and Butt in the middle?

You must have been bored stiff, are your mates Palace fans? It was a bad game I thought Anichebe was ok myself, he's still young and raw but he caused them more problems than Johnson did who was disappointing for me. He hasn't had a good game for a while tbh. The centre half you mentioned handled him quite easy, young Portuguese lad. Baines is needed because Valente is too old now and we don't have any other left back at the club. Agree about Milner, he would be good for us as would pretty much any proper winger. We haven't got one in the whole squad. Nice one I agree with your post and Moyes does deserve it, rumours he is unhappy with his lot. Yes Mate - the lads I was with were mainly Palace fans and one Everton fan. Oh, and yes - bored shitless. Awful game. I have been impressed by Anichebe previously, really impressed actually, but he didn't do much for me yesterday. Agree that AJ strolled through the game. That Portuguese CB did look very composed mind. Might keep an eye on him and Tom Watson, who reminded me very much of Steve Sidwell - and not just because they're both Ginga's! All the best.

http://img261.imageshack.us/img261/8391/75973265oi8.jpg The troll definitely looks like he's lost weight. I thought that. Sam has certainly had an effect on him. The fat bastard. He did ok today in fairness. After signing our new LB tomorrow, RB is defo the next position to improve if we have the funds.

1878, I watched your boys against Palace yesterday, and whilst a pre-season friendly is nothing to go by, you really struggled to impress. I always thought you're defensive unit was rock solid but you looked pretty vulnerable at times. If Palace had anyone better than Scowcroft/Morrison up front they would probably have beaten you. That said, the only player to stand out was Tom Watson (CM - Palace) and a Centre Half they've just signed looked decent - so they weren't outstanding either. Some of your players were just strolling (Carsley, Hibbitt etc) mind so, like I say, it's probably unfair to slam them. You seemed to need a playmaker/partner for AJ. Someone who can change a game but with a bit of work rate. Maybe Cahill would've made a difference. I said to the lads I was with, someone like a Milner would make a massive difference to the Toffees. Anichebe looked a bit like Shola. I'm sure it must have just been an off day for him. Nobody deserves that kind of comparison!! I can see how Baines would really improve your left side though and think he'd be worth the outlay. Good luck for the season ahead.

Had an ABSOLUTE FUCKING NIGHTMARE with these pricks. I rang up about half an hour before the Celtic game (using the number on screen) and said to the call centre fella: "If I don't rate your service, can I cancel tomorrow and only get charged the £9.99?" He said "Yeah, no problem, call us up, you'll only get charged the £9.99 once and we'll cancel you - there's no commitment term on this package". Watched Celtic, lost about 30 minutes of the match presumably due to a shit signal and then had to put up with shite, Channel 5 like coverage. Rang them back the next day and said to the call centre "Wasn't that impressed with your service, I don't want to subscribe in future - can I take the £9.99 charge and cancel my account as this is what I was told I could do last night?" They said "You didn't call us last night" I replied "Errrrr yes I did" Them "No you didn't Sir, you were either an internet booking or we rang you" Me "You fucking didn't - are you calling me a liar?" Them "Well all we know is what we have on screen and there is no way you rang us" Me "I did but fuck it, I want to cancel the thing anyway, can you do that?" Them "Not until the end of August and you'll have to put it in writing" Me "I was told I could cancel immediately" Them "You didn't even call us so who told you that?" Cue me giving the daft little cock a piece of my mind and slamming the phone down. Day after I see I got charged £19.99. Presumably, from reading this thread, it was a connection charge - I wasn't told about that either. COMPLETE BUNCH OF WANKERS. NEVER AGAIN.

I'd love to see it! In fact, I think it would be a nice send-off for him. A special moment between him and the fans.

What other option did we have? How about not renewing his contract until he'd proved his fitness? Let his original deal, at a far less cost, run it's course. And lose the player for nothing, while telling other players who might be thinking of coming here that we won't stand by them if they get injured? Ozzie, If you think we've had good value from Kieron Dyer since we signed him all those years ago and his service deserves any form of loyalty payment then thats up to you. Personally, I think he's the lowest of the low and I, for one, will be booing the bastard at every given opportunity whoever he plays for next season. I've said nowt about loyalty payments, so save it. Meanwhile, back to what we were actually talking about... Would you work for someone who might sack you when you got sick? If I had an employer who had stuck by me through years of sickness, questionable performance after paying £6m to get me to join them I THANK my fucking lucky stars and think it would be better than a lottery win. I don't think I could bring myself to stitch them up if I chose to leave and I think I'd have the decency to put in a leaving/transfer request given that I'd be embarrassed at my performance since their initial investment. Perhaps that's just me though, eh Ozzie? Was the question "Would you work for someone who might sack you when you got sick?" too difficult, then? On the one hand you're saying we should have turfed Dyer out when (because) he was injured, and on the other you're slagging him for his alleged lack of loyalty. Spot the contradiction. Face it, no one on here really knows what's been going on with this transfer. Meanwhile, when else has he been either disloyal or greedier than any other footballer? Ozzie, Stop being condescending. Too difficult? Every sensible employer in the country has a policy to deal with sickness absence. If I'd been unable to perform my duties for best part of 3 years, I don't think I would be in my job. Would you? To answer your question, I do work for an employer who might finish me if I was sick. Not if I'm off for a few weeks/Months but if my body was so unreliable to the point where I could not perform my duties then yes I would be phased out. I fear we're digressing though. You're offering support to someone I wouldn't cross the street for. We're never going to agree on this. Oh, and did I say?, stop being condescending with your posts. You can have the last word on this. I sense it's important to you.

What other option did we have? How about not renewing his contract until he'd proved his fitness? Let his original deal, at a far less cost, run it's course. And lose the player for nothing, while telling other players who might be thinking of coming here that we won't stand by them if they get injured? Ozzie, If you think we've had good value from Kieron Dyer since we signed him all those years ago and his service deserves any form of loyalty payment then thats up to you. Personally, I think he's the lowest of the low and I, for one, will be booing the bastard at every given opportunity whoever he plays for next season. I've said nowt about loyalty payments, so save it. Meanwhile, back to what we were actually talking about... Would you work for someone who might sack you when you got sick? If I had an employer who had stuck by me through years of sickness, questionable performance after paying £6m to get me to join them I THANK my fucking lucky stars and think it would be better than a lottery win. I don't think I could bring myself to stitch them up if I chose to leave and I think I'd have the decency to put in a leaving/transfer request given that I'd be embarrassed at my performance since their initial investment. Perhaps that's just me though, eh Ozzie?

What other option did we have? How about not renewing his contract until he'd proved his fitness? Let his original deal, at a far less cost, run it's course. And lose the player for nothing, while telling other players who might be thinking of coming here that we won't stand by them if they get injured? Ozzie, If you think we've had good value from Kieron Dyer since we signed him all those years ago and his service deserves any form of loyalty payment then thats up to you. Personally, I think he's the lowest of the low and I, for one, will be booing the bastard at every given opportunity whoever he plays for next season.

What other option did we have? How about not renewing his contract until he'd proved his fitness? Let his original deal, at a far less cost, run it's course.

They wouldn't have to if he didn't want a payment. The original deal was £6m, why would Newcastle change that after agreeing to it initially? It can only mean he's after a payment of some sort, probably in lieu of his testimonial. Little bastard.

Would hardly say he's been outwitted. He's still holding the ace card and as it's a buyers market, he's bound to go before the deadline. If he'd been outwitted he would've accepted Dyers demands for a payment just to get rid of him. I think it's absolute quality that we've stood up to the little twat and his agent and said 'hang on........if you wanna leave, then fuck off, but don't expect us to pay you to go'. He should be fucking grateful that we stood by him through years of injury.

Centre half?

Bad news.