Lenny

I'm not going to get into overly praising anything about that performance but I like to think I can be balanced in my view of particular events, even if the end result is piss poor. Until the first goal we had been relatively organised and were frustrating them into taking long shots. Don't interpret that as me being happy in anyway however and as I said though that was totally at the expense of attacking intent, and their manager reacted tactically and found us out.

For what it's worth, we were resolute-ish until the first goal, but it was entirely at the expense of any attacking intent and there was absolutely no response plan for when we inevitably go behind. Their manager found a solution by overloading the fullbacks, and our manager had no answer which was reflected in the utter mess of a performance from that point on. The players overall are not up to standard but there's far more to be had from them.

There is very little to suggest there's any good coaching going on with these players. What constitutes good coaching because today's response to going a goal down has no positive reflection on our coaching. The players either went a goal down and didn't execute a response plan that was asked of them, or the players did exactly what was asked of them. Either of those don't suggest good coaching.

I'm actually shocked at what appears your constant shock to people's comments. You seem to be responding like there's a night and day difference between how Bruce had us playing and how Jones has us playing, when IMO clearly there isn't. Be interested to hear your thoughts on how you think we're doing rather than just your surprise at others.

Surely you can look at more than just the results to see why people feel this way. His team selection last week was questionable however even giving him the benefit of the doubt and assuming fitness was a factor, his selection today was cowardly by keeping it the same. We got a result last week but there were poor performances and they should have been addressed in today's lineup, especially with Willock and Almiron a week fitter. Those same poor performances were replicated today by the same players. Our initial gameplan to park the bus worked only so well and he inspired absolutely nothing from the players when we went a goal behind. People are rightfully frustrated and concerned that he may have more games in charge, IMO.

I didn't expect us to win, but our performance after going a goal behind was a disgrace.

Look where James is parked, man, it's pathetic

Chelsea have a manager that identified we were parking the bus and over committed their full backs as a counter, and found us out.

Our reaction to going a goal behind was equal measures pathetic and infuriating. Absolutely unacceptable.

I just had a look at each of their goals and assists records for Arsenal (as that's 99% the basis of my opinion), and surprised to find that their goal return was similar with both around 1 in 4. Overmars the more productive with assists (1 in 5) vs Ljungberg's 1 in 8. I expected to find a better return from Overmars TBF. Also surprised to find that Ljungberg played more than double the games for Arsenal that Overmars did.

Bit late to the party but I thought Overmars was a fair bit better than Ljungberg (who was also decent).

His goal record for Bournemouth was around one in three, over a significant number of games. I'd say that's pretty indicative of a reliable goal scorer, and a very solid return for an average to poor premier league team and with a season that included a relegation.

Would it not be fairer if keepers were given a foot (or whatever is deemed a fair distance) from the goal line with which they can move within? Surely the odds are stacked massively against them as it is that a minor movement off the line shouldn't be punished as it currently is?!

Probably one for realistic transfer targets, but would be nice if we finally reunited Miggy with Josef Martinez.

Quite looking forward to seeing what a competent manager can get out of him. His smile has been missing for a couple of years now.

That's a heel turn right there

You could indeed be

I thought this might be the case, too.

I personally think the opposite. If they were going to just go with Jones for the foreseeable then you'd think they'd have just binned Bruce last week. Perhaps they're now close to landing their target and therefore confident enough to start moving things into place.

He was lucky his tenure was spent for the majority without fans in attendance, otherwise it would have been far worse for him.

Hung out to dry or not, there was still more than enough at his disposal that a half respectable manager would have gotten significantly more from.

Going to assume that whilst Edwards wrote the article, he didn't write the headline

Surely someone (Fonseca?) must be legitimately lined up at this point then? It's the only reason I can think of, that if they were going to put Jones in charge in the interim, they wouldn't have binned Bruce off a week ago and done it then.

Fucking finally!

Must be Jose, then.