Lenny

Just what Newcastle United need. A change of manager. We're already a f****** laughing stock ffs! And we'll continue to be one with such an incompetent manager at the helm. A laughing stock who's team is in the last 16 of the UEFA cup. Has a good chance of qualifying for Europe again. And has performed heroics with the worst injury pileup in the clubs history. Word. I'd say we have little chance of progressing further than the next round of the Uefa Cup, and mid table mediocrity bekons in the league. As for injuries, they've only be highlighted to such an extent because Roeder has failed to address the gaping holes in our squad during the last two transfer windows. nice and optimistic fan i see Honesty - a bad thing? what has honesty got to do with anything? i dont expect him to lie about what he thinks, i just think its pessimistic. Pessimism or optimism is irrelevant, the facts are that Roeder has f***** up. i said optimistic, and as you say pessimism and optimism is irrelevant to fact so you should have realised i was referring to not progressing in the uefa and the mid table mediocrity.

Just what Newcastle United need. A change of manager. We're already a f****** laughing stock ffs! And we'll continue to be one with such an incompetent manager at the helm. A laughing stock who's team is in the last 16 of the UEFA cup. Has a good chance of qualifying for Europe again. And has performed heroics with the worst injury pileup in the clubs history. Word. I'd say we have little chance of progressing further than the next round of the Uefa Cup, and mid table mediocrity bekons in the league. As for injuries, they've only be highlighted to such an extent because Roeder has failed to address the gaping holes in our squad during the last two transfer windows. nice and optimistic fan i see Honesty - a bad thing? what has honesty got to do with anything? i dont expect him to lie about what he thinks, i just think its pessimistic.

i hope we can keep him but i really cant see it now!

Just what Newcastle United need. A change of manager. We're already a f****** laughing stock ffs! And we'll continue to be one with such an incompetent manager at the helm. A laughing stock who's team is in the last 16 of the UEFA cup. Has a good chance of qualifying for Europe again. And has performed heroics with the worst injury pileup in the clubs history. Word. I'd say we have little chance of progressing further than the next round of the Uefa Cup, and mid table mediocrity bekons in the league. As for injuries, they've only be highlighted to such an extent because Roeder has failed to address the gaping holes in our squad during the last two transfer windows. nice and optimistic fan i see

i suppose this should be in the duffs dive thread, but i dont think its likely that diving is ever going to be stopped, would you rather teams dived against us to get results and we played honestly when opportunities to go down arised and lost points due to it? i think it evens itself out over time and its sadly part of the game. Evens itself out? Thats the kind of thing pathetic old pro's say when they try to justify the factthat players blatantly cheat. i dont agree with cheating or diving but i think its true, overall!

i suppose this should be in the duffs dive thread, but i dont think its likely that diving is ever going to be stopped, would you rather teams dived against us to get results and we played honestly when opportunities to go down arised and lost points due to it? i think it evens itself out over time and its sadly part of the game.

all things considered i think roeder has done an ok job, considering the club was right in the shit when he took over. it would be a backwards step if we replaced him at the end of the season.

only watched 2nd half, but what shitty moments are u referring to with bramble because it didnt look like he put a foot wrong.

is corradi the one that done that street fighter thingy, hyurgen!!! lol yeah, the energy/fire ball shooting thing with Sun Jihai yeah it was awful, couldnt help but laugh though!

7.45, i hate it when we play thursdays i have football training and always miss the first half!!!

is corradi the one that done that street fighter thingy, hyurgen!!! lol

or the belgians???

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it depends if people are considering their lineup as of current form, or whether they are playing to the best of their ability. I would play milner on current form but if our players were playing to their ability i probably wouldnt put him in the team. But Milner has been doing it for nearly 2 seasons now and is only 21, how long does it take for him to be good enough? i see your point but i personally dont think his ability at present is as good as the 4 in midfield i would choose, although i must admit in my selection it is more accomodation to dyer than whether he is actually good in right mid, but id want to see him try it there. Otherwise i would actually put milner in.

it depends if people are considering their lineup as of current form, or whether they are playing to the best of their ability. I would play milner on current form but if our players were playing to their ability i probably wouldnt put him in the team.

didnt roeder say hes never been able to put owen on a team sheet in an interview even tho he has?

i dont understand how a lot of people are picking edgar as first choice left back, i know he played well in the game he played there but it was only 1 game and its not even his natural position. hes not even left footed (is he?). i know babayaro isnt great but at least he offers a bit of balance and support when going forward.

I would agree with that

better late than never thought id put mine in: Given Solano Taylor Gooch Babayaro Dyer* Parker Emre Duff Owen Martins Harper Bramble Butt Milner Nzogbia *Dyer can go up front if we need a striker. Thats based on players being on top form (and parker being told hes a DM)

i think that spurs dont have a particularly brilliant first 11, they have a decent squad but i think that their biggest asset is their team work. as much as i hate to admit it, when they are playing at home they play some really attractive football. I dont think anyone can call them shit though. Maybe a little overrated but not shit. They will probably finish within a few places of us, like most seasons.

at the end of the day mate, we aint gonna come to an agreement on this so we might as well just leave it there!

Fair enough, I respect your opinion. I'm still not sure anyone here is acting like he was wholly innocent though. Even Bellamy himself admits he made mistakes. ok maybe not necessarily acting like he was innocent, but certainly forgave him for everything he did. I would be inclined to say that thats because he was a good player for us, but at the same time Kieron Dyer is hated by some so there is an element of favouritism in it. I don't think you can generalise like that. I just want us to do well on the pitch, if we have problem characters who give us another dimension then I want the manager to deal with them in a sensible manner, for the benifit of the team. That includes Dyer, at times when his itime on the pitch is limited due to injury then I can understand people having a go considering the wages we pay for him, but I think most things can be forgotten when he is out there playing and helping us win games. Anyhoo, as the Janitor say's there are some cracking interviews with Carver backing up most of what I have said. He is a pain in the arse, but was worth it. i cant really argue with what you say there, i think its safe (i hope) to say that bellamy certainly didnt help himself. as i said earlier tho, i didnt want him to go, but i think he had to go.

Fair enough, I respect your opinion. I'm still not sure anyone here is acting like he was wholly innocent though. Even Bellamy himself admits he made mistakes. ok maybe not necessarily acting like he was innocent, but certainly forgave him for everything he did. I would be inclined to say that thats because he was a good player for us, but at the same time Kieron Dyer is hated by some so there is an element of favouritism in it.

is there anyone on here that is actually sitting on the fence because it just seems like everyones opinions is of one extreme!!