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Which is precisely what every single person who doesn't support one of those clubs in this country wants to see happen. I hope they all fall spectacularly on their arses, the horrible pampered bunch of w*****s. All of them. This, love it when 'best league in the world' teams are shown up by fancy foreigners on a smaller budget It's almost as if the tv networks don't understand why fans of the clubs who are not in the CL places year after year would want to see those that are fall on their arses. They think we're all at home rooting for them as representatives of our league or some nonsense. I bet that's what that wanker Scudamore thinks, anyway. Why on earth would we want to see clubs in our league do well and milk even more money from the golden tit of the CL, just to make the gap between us and them even bigger?

Which is precisely what every single person who doesn't support one of those clubs in this country wants to see happen. I hope they all fall spectacularly on their arses, the horrible pampered bunch of wankers. All of them.

Old Trafford certainly doesn't seem the cauldron of noise it used to be.

And isn't that what we all want? The flip side of all those years of success is every single neutral wanting you to fall on your arse. Getting Man U to play like Everton would be a fatal mistake for Moyes.

Did you hear their "burglar" exchange last week? It was absolutely brilliant.

When you consider what footballers get from the game - a game which is entirely reliant on fans in one way or another - the fans don't actually ask for much from the players In return the players get fame, adulation and millions of pounds a year. The very least they could do would be to actually play and do their best for the money. They can retire as you g men still and not have to lift a finger work-wise for the rest of their lives. If this story is true then it is very depressing for the game as a whole, not just newcastle.

Looked a little tired today and didn't play as well as we can do. Still, that's an evil first week, Arsenal away, Chelsea away, Liverpool home in the first seven days. I'd have taken three points if I'd been offered them before hand.

*tears of laughter*

Ha ha ha, look at his face. I reckon Albion are headed for big trouble this season. They are one of my tips to go down.

"An ecstatic Nicolas Anelka, holding the WBA shirt like it's a dead pigeon covered in sick" http://pbs.twimg.com/media/BOVzZOACUAAGGSq.jpg

That Anelka stuff is absolutely priceless. I only wish I knew a few more Albion fans to take the piss out of over it.

Encouraging, though, i was half expecting to get fuck all from our first three games, and we've had three points in one and been ever so slightly conned out of something at Stamford Bridge.

I feel a bit hard done by after that.

I have no idea what is going to happen in our match at Chelsea tonight. We could get beaten 8-0 again, get a 4-4 draw, win the match, anything, genuinely there isn't a scoreline which would surprise me. I think it is somewhat shitty, though, that we have to play Arsenal, Chelsea and Liverpool in the first week and then have no match for three weeks afterwards, because Chelsea are in the Super Cup. This match should have been pushed back later in the season, not brought forward.

I'll be your tracksuited English number two. Your Pat Rice, if you will. I'm sitting about 10 miles from where Arthur Cox is from. I'd be the new him. I can slip into character no bother.

You have easily enough good players to not be anywhere near the relegation places. Watching the match last night it was pretty gobsmacking to see largely the same bunch of players turn out such a half-arsed, not bothered, unmotivated performance, much as they did last season. When you were making signings last year, you were the envy of a good chunk of the league for having identified so many decent French players, and then the same last January when you brought in Sissoko. I specifically remember, for example, on numerous occasions as the January window closed and you and us were both struggling, hearing Villa fans reflect that you had successfully bought yourselves out of trouble. You need new faces in now, that's obvious, but there is a long way from that state of affairs to what you have now, which is somehow managing to fashion out of a decent squad of players, a side which looks like considerably less than the sum of its parts. Baffling.

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Nah. That'd be at odds with Arsenal's Groundhog Season they've had on repeat for a few years. They'll do sufficiently well - only just - in the CL to contribute enough to the usual papering over of the cracks. It's the Arsenal way.

I just saw Pardew talking about the "disrespectful" bid for Cabaye. I don't get that. How is it disrespectful? It is a laughably low bid which nobody expects to be successful, but I don't see why a manager of a PL club should be surprised to receive a bid for one of his players at any point during the transfer window. Then the whole "we prepared for three days with Cabaye" yada yada yada spiel is a pretty transparent piece of nonsense. He looks like he's squirming and making excuses after one game of the season. I can see why you'd find him annoying.

I didn't see the whole thing, but dived in and out of it, and from what I saw there didn't look to be much effort or desire there. If it was a fixture later in the season you might say it was one where the players looked like they were trying to get the manager sacked.

I remember how derisory i felt when we signed MFH (Marlon Fucking Harewood).

Do you believe Arsenals £10m for Cabaye and £6m for Williams were arrogant? Or will you choose to ignore those bids and forget they were ever made because it isn't as cliche to shit on Arsenal? Did I mention Arsenal? Clown. That's my point. You say we're arrogant for making a £28m bid but most clubs, i.e. Arsenal, start low when they begin negotiations (not that I think we've bid low.) Exactly - Arsenal. How's that strategy working out for them these days?

See, I know what you mean by saying they are worth more to Everton, but that's the whole point - the second bit doesn't really come into it. Everton don't need to even consider what would be the realistic value of those players on the open market, because that's not what they are dealing with - the only thing that matters to them is how much Fellaini and Baines are worth to them. Everton have no obligation to provide "value" in the transfer market. I fully understand that, but I believe we have bid market value for these players expecting a counter offer closer to Evertons worth of these players. I don't see how a £28m bid is arrogant or derisory, even if it wasn't the receiving teams estimation of their players. It might not be derisory for you and I, but that's not the point, Everton are saying that they find the bid derisory - ie in terms of what they think the players are worth, and I'd imagine it also has something to do with Moyes having good reason to know how much they'd be likely to let them go for.

It's pretty obvious what is going on. They get tremendous stick from their fans on Saturday, so Monday morning, Arsene is hitting up google or maybe browsing Fifa Ultimate Team, looking to see where he can buy someone. Anyone, just get someone in.

See, I know what you mean by saying they are worth more to Everton, but that's the whole point - the second bit doesn't really come into it. Everton don't need to even consider what would be the realistic value of those players on the open market, because that's not what they are dealing with - the only thing that matters to them is how much Fellaini and Baines are worth to them. Everton have no obligation to provide "value" in the transfer market. You also have to remember, you are talking about Everton's two most important players, two weeks before the transfer window closed. If there was a real desire from Man United to get these two players in, maybe they should have made their move weeks ago? Everton are now going to do what we did with Benteke, what Liverpool are doing with Suarez, and what Spurs appear to be doing with Bale - making it clear how important those players are to them, and really, who can blame them?