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That's awesome

http://i3.kym-cdn.com/entries/icons/original/000/007/666/_57c8a1a431a592af806925e57258202f.png http://i.qkme.me/360ikv.jpg

Bunch of Korean people getting together in town for this. So nice of them to schedule the early kickoff (8PM, live on TV) for our benefit.

Ah, the sweet, sweet sound of anguish at Anfield.

Korean commentator: "Liverpool are so desperate to get a goal now, they're even bringing on Andy Carroll."

Van Persie is like cheating.

That thread title is just so... Beautiful

Who's that advertisement supposed to be aimed at anyway? The players?

Going to watch a must-win World Cup Qualifier against Kuwait tonight, loss sees us most likely out of WC 2014 without haven even gone to the final round of qualifiers. Probably the highest stakes match I've ever witnessed in person. Looking forward to it.

He'll be under serious pressure if we take a loss here, which is insane given that we'd probably still be sixth, but that's football I suppose.

Reminds me of how we offered the job to Venables on a temporary basis. If he turns them down, it's Kinnear time!

anyone seen the lad play? Sewelly. Wonder what they're saying at the Reims forum.

The current pool of players England has available is more than good enough to challenge anyone in the world and possibly even win a tournament with some dumb luck. They're not though really. They're not as good as Spain or Germany, but far worse players have won tournaments before. The way England is talked about sometimes you'd think they were South Korea or something. In terms of individual talent England would no doubt be one of the top 10 teams in the World. It's just a matter of how that talent is being utilized.

The current pool of players England has available is more than good enough to challenge anyone in the world and possibly even win a tournament with some dumb luck.

I like this kit a lot. Is there an Asia Cup this Summer for this kit? Nope, just for WC qualifying and the Olympics. http://imgnews.naver.com/image/109/2012/02/23/201202230824770563_2.jpg http://imgnews.naver.com/image/109/2012/02/23/201202230824770563_3.jpg The away version

Who is the... err... best player in the world who's native tongue is not an Iberian language?

Normally I would be against dropping Simpson for Raylor, but he needs the jolt. Feels like he's getting complacent.

I'll frighten my children with stories of Joe Kinnear when they're being naughty.

Very few teams actually "dominate" the majority of their games. It's a pretty competitive league. I mean, I know everyone says that Wolves or Blackburn or QPR or basically everyone in the bottom half is utter shit and everything, but they're still not bad enough that you should have the expectation that we "dominate." This isn't like the SPL where Celtic can just show up and beat everyone 5-0 every week. Obviously I'd like to see some more 6-0s or 5-1s, but in this league those matches are always going to be exceptions rather than the norm.

I doubt anyone is genuinely "not bothered" about this. I mean, I can understand the thinking and motivations behind this and how it benefits people (not us,) but I still find it heavily disturbing.

Ehem, in summary... If "great player" for you is being remembered for far beyond your time and being mentioned in the same breath as Pele and Maradona, Messi won't be there until he does well at a World Cup. If "great player" for you is displaying great technical ability, he's already there so fuck it.

He has a club career that pisses all over both of them though

I don't agree. The biggest stage on club football absolutely pales in historical significance compared to the World Cup. The only reason we're even having this conversation at all is because we're hardcore football junkies. The general public doesn't give a s*** about the Champions League, and small sample size as it might be, the World Cup is undeniably a key factor in determining a player's legacy. Then the general public is in no position to be judging the greatest players of all time. f*** the general public. I like to think that the truly "great" players (the word itself is quite overused) have a historical and cultural significance that goes far beyond just football fans. Pele stopped a civil war ffs. Maradona also kept the entire economy of Bolivia and Colombia afloat. Yeah, that's exactly the sort of thing I'm talking about. Gaining influence that goes far beyond the pitch through your skills and achievements. Ryan Giggs is a great player and probably has the most illustrious club career ever, but he's not going to be remembered for very long by people who don't follow football religiously. In about three decades he'll probably be a footnote for most people who aren't Manchester United fans. Maldini? I guess? That's a whole different debate that I don't feel qualified to get into.