Tsunami

Pardew side getting better after HT. We must have had Carver doing all our HT talks.

So by going down the price for the club would go up? The club is only worth what someone is willing to pay for it regardless of how much money Ashley has put in. And he'll only sell if he wants to. You can't have a tighter grip than what he already has. Absolutely, imagine we'll not have the Sky money meaning he'll have "plough" more interest free money in to get us up and when we're back the club's worth goes back to what it was but we owe him even more money. Going down would be an absolute disaster. We're nothing to him in terms of his wealth and he could toy with us for years and at some point could ask for the loan money back. If that happens we are waiting for the Administrators. Don't put it past him, he may not be bothered at all if we go down. He's in no rush to sell until he gets exactly what he wants.

Fat Sam would just love it.

Loaning more money doesn't change anything, he owns 100% of the club and is the only creditor It increases the debt owed to him and pushes the purchase price up. If we go down his grip will only tighten . We'll be in danger of owing him more money than the club is worth.

We've reacted as well as could be expected to going behind

Do these clowns realise we are losing at QPR?

I've no idea what we do during HT

No surprise, 2nd half blues.

Push on Dummet there

HT team talk working well again

Bloody hell

Qpr can't be as bad 2nd half. Start worrying.

Fantastic innovation, he's been trying that finish all season but usually misses the ball altogether

No, it wouldn't force Ashley out, it'd allow him to loan us more money, we'd get promoted and be potentially further away from getting rid of him.

So, if Dutch Schteve turned us down yday does it follow that today's meeting was to convince Carver to stay, probably after being told on Saturday that they were approaching Dutch Schteve immediately? Anything is possible with this rabble now. How can Carver work with the players from this point onward, even going back to being a coach should be untenable. The players should be ashamed of their performances but I can understand that they are pissed off and after all most have no real affection for the club. Between their apathy and Carver's man management skills this weeks training should be fun. Complete shambles.

When he does go I'd be interested in his version of real events. Unfortunately, I've no doubt he'll be paid to say nowt.

He's completely lost the dressing room, he has to go, at this point no manager would be a better option. Lose next week and we'll go down.

Disgusting

Expect the same post match comments

I wonder if Graham Fenton regrets scoring those 2 goals. When Batty scored the title was still in our own hands. Not winning that title changed us mainly because it affected KK, we may have signed Shearer but KK clearly had self doubts after blowing the league, there was all the flotation talk and he walked too early. We should have tied the bugger down and made him stay.

Drogba really shouldn't be getting a game now.

I thought we were safe, lose at Leicester and we're staring down the barrel. If we go down and Hull and Sland stay up it will have shades of the last relegation. I honestly thought 35 points would be enough.

That's just plain offside. The player makes a move for the ball and is therefore active

There's 2 lads who sit a couple of rows in front of me who travel up from London, they were there today, they came up for Spurs game, but like me, they didn't go to that game. It's a right dilemma for some of us. It doesn't help when people tell them what they should be doing. I've no problem in staying away but it needs even more focus. There's loads of match going fans who really don't believe things will change. If Ashleout.com can get media support it'll ceraintly help. For those watching on streams could you not hearings 34th minute singing or see the fans standing? the fact that there is division within the fans without Ashley having to do anything will be music to his ears. He'll be laughing his tits off.

The point I'm trying very badly to get across is that as fans we need to respect individual decisions. I'd love the Ronny to come out and advocate a boycott. The Swansea game had boycotts, a sit in and a 34 minute protest all suggested; it was a mishmash of ideas. Ashleyout.com needs some serious media backing not just idle comment and reporting. Let's get safe from relegation and hope for a media led coordinated day of well publicised protest for the last home game.