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Brighton & Hove Albion 3-1 Newcastle United (02/09/23)
Gallowgate Toon replied to Yorkie's topic in Football
Watched it back and still don't think Brighton were that great but always interesting to watch De Zerbi's tweaks. Their press actually had a huge hole in it like ours but we refused to exploit it. We used the switch loads last season and it was on on multiple occasions yesterday usually for Joelinton/Gordon. We did it once but Joe was unlucky with the touch. Never again. Think we were caught off guard by the their aggression and potentially due to Liverpool not feeling confident. They used a canny tactic from goal kicks. Gilmour would stand by the GK to create a bigger gap for forwards to take up/pull defenders for long balls and then essentially ran in a straight line past our first pressing line. Totally disrupted who we should cover and then they'd long ball it into Ferguson/JP to get on the turn. Ferguson absolutely owned Burn at this. Their flexibility in build up is great. Comfortable keeper and CBs. Sometimes Veltman tucks in alongside Gilmour while Gross moves up and wider. Sometimes they go traditional box between Gilmour-Gross. Sometimes JP dropped in deeper while Gilmour played as the lone pivot. Really nice and some cool ways to see how we could make a Wilson-Isak partnership work as well as a future with more balanced FBs on both sides. From our side, the midfield tracking really was chronic, possibly due to lack of clear instruction. Joelinton is the worst for this - I reckon good footballing teams have him targeted well now that simple runs behind undo him. Wonder how much Botman is the organiser for us usually on that side. -
Interesting to look at the heatmaps from yesterday. Don't think I've ever seen our back 4 so flat. When you look at theirs, it's basically their front 4 on our back 4. Wonder if they pinned us back or it was tactical. Something I hadn't noticed from the first goal is the pathetic covering by either Almiron or Tonali once Pope fucks up his kick. Estupinan picks up Pope's ball with nobody around him, he has acres and it forces Trippier to rush in a bit despite already having Mitoma to worry about. Absolutely shite defensive effort on all 3 goals. Still don't think Brighton were even that good.
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Isak off Wilson could be very exciting but I can't see a formation change yet so I wonder if the answer to our midfield gaps woes lies at full back. Or, at least, partially. When wingers tuck into that 'half space', you either need mids to drop deep or full backs who are confident to step up and inside safe in the knowledge that a winger or the midfield will cover the overlapping runner. Emery's 6 at the back comes to mind but probs not as extreme. Hall feels like a naturally good candidate for this. With Hall also being a midfielder, you'd think he can step in when we're in possession too. We often go into a diamond on the ball with Bruno ahead of Burn/Botman/Schar but that can be dangerous once Bruno is beaten as the CBs are flat and on the turn. An alternative option is for Hall to step up and play alongside Bruno and we then form more of a box which should give us more options to build play. Still risk but it means there's more cover in the centre of the pitch ahead of the CBs for second balls.
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How can Liverpool be winning without a dedicated holding player?!
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The only thing Hope is wrong about is that Bruno/Tonali can't play together. It's far too early to say anything like that but it's also a strange point. They're not similar players and they play in a 3. Why isn't he saying Tonali can't play with Joelinton? He mentioned this after the 352 experiment in preseason and has now raised it again as a convenient controversial talking point for his rag.
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Brighton & Hove Albion 3-1 Newcastle United (02/09/23)
Gallowgate Toon replied to Yorkie's topic in Football
I'm really not sure what Longstaff and Anderson are meant to be doing here. Bruno pressing high is something we've done a lot so you'd think the midfield would know what to do when that happens. Maybe trying to cut passing lanes but there's such a gap behind them that a simple chipped pass renders it useless. -
He definitely can play central striker, he's got terrific link up ability as well as having the speed to in behind, but it requires strong runners. We were very good at that season but are much patchier this season (so far).
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Think it's unfair to level at him that he doesn't change things. Maybe not radical shape changes, no, but FourFourTwo did a great video on us last season about how we progressed our pressing game midway last season from all-out to mid-block etc.
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Brighton & Hove Albion 3-1 Newcastle United (02/09/23)
Gallowgate Toon replied to Yorkie's topic in Football
It's seemingly fashionable to batter him at the moment but I thought he was clearly the best of the mids today. He only lost possession 8 times (only once more than Joe and Tonali despite playing more minutes), highest pass completion, most tackles, and set Isak through with a great pass. Nowhere near perfect and some poor positioning but he always puts in work. -
A specialist 6 isn't going to stop multiple players tucking in though. E.g. City, Bruno already had a man marked but Foden ran off Joelinton. We'd effectively have needed 2 DMs there not just one.
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Aye, good point to remember Howe is a streak machine. I think it makes sense as his football is quite ambitious - when it comes off and confidence is flowing then it feels effortless. Opposite when things aren't firing.
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It's definitely the biggest problem at the moment. It should be monstrous and full of energy but it's doing very little.
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I'd agree that we don't need to rip things up and start again. Maybe trying a 4-2-3-1 isn't off the cards but I think the next logical point is to keep the system but make a few changes to light a fire. We achieved a lot of what we did last season due to mental approach.
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Aye, the calls for DMs now seem a bit weird considering we were very successful without a true DM last season.
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Aye, it's an absolutely pointless discussion at this point and entirely predictable. Crop of a few who will jump on despite being dead wrong about the last 3 windows and tell us we've fucked it all and everything is bad.
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Not been feeling Isak these last few games but I'd still keep him in the team, wasteful today and anonymous previously. Got to start Wilson though so let's try and get them both in.
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Brighton & Hove Albion 3-1 Newcastle United (02/09/23)
Gallowgate Toon replied to Yorkie's topic in Football
We're always shite here. Feels like we can barely a pass a ball. Had a sinking feeling after the first few mins when we fluffed easy openings. The team's mentality feels really off to me at the moment - isn't there a bonus dispute? We're seeing so little resilience or invention. Confidence just doesn't feel there at all. I actually think it's a worse Brighton team 'on paper' than the one we won 4-1 against only a few months ago. -
Ultimately, we're a point down on last year based on relative fixtures but the last 135 mins have been very poor. The team feels similar but also weirdly quite different at the same time. Almost passive.
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Brighton & Hove Albion 3-1 Newcastle United (02/09/23)
Gallowgate Toon replied to Yorkie's topic in Football
This has been abject. Brighton haven't even been that good. -
Brighton & Hove Albion 3-1 Newcastle United (02/09/23)
Gallowgate Toon replied to Yorkie's topic in Football
Disagree. Joelinton has been wank though and looks half fit. -
Brighton & Hove Albion 3-1 Newcastle United (02/09/23)
Gallowgate Toon replied to Yorkie's topic in Football
I think he's looked poor in general today. -
Brighton & Hove Albion 3-1 Newcastle United (02/09/23)
Gallowgate Toon replied to Yorkie's topic in Football
Look like a team feeling sorry for ourselves. Some very odd decisions from Isak in the final third. -
Don't think I've ever been more sure of anything in my life than us getting Milan in the group stages. It's the way football always works.