Mattoon

Unfortunately it's siege mentality at this point, as fans we've had 18 months of fighting alone against what we perceived to be an injustice from the PL. This fight has continued after the takeover in an "us against the world" scenario, which makes your average fan want to defend their CLUB. Therein lies the issue as the club and the issues at hand aren't mutually exclusive but feel like the same thing, people feel targeted and are defending that which they would not normally. Whataboutism is an easy way for people to justify their defence of their club as an entity.

I agree with the sentiment, it's not acceptable some of the practices that happen in SA. My issue is with the political grandstanding of your average fan, full blown virtue signalling borne of jealousy. Most of them don't care what happens outside their own front door, it's the hypocrisy that irks me, not the legitimate concerns of sportswashing. Most of this will have vanished by next season, those that are still vocal should be listened to at that point. Right now, its just noise and needs to be ignored, to try and enter into discourse just makes our fans look complicit.

With Jones preferring to shore up defence this week it left ASM isolated and outnumbered, with the lack of quality in midfield and energy levels so low from all the bacon butties and no training we were never getting out from the back against a team that Viera has running through walls. The ball over the top was the only way to relieve pressure. ASM needs support around him, but without a midfield that can transition play, players that can make actual passes or run further than 10 yards without being gassed it's a tough ask. He shouldn't have let himself get frustrated, he needs to give 100% at all times, especially when he's our number 1 outlet at the moment.

I thought Jones did the best he could with what he had, he's not the man to turn us around but we were facing an energetic, resurgent Palace side and defence was first and foremost. Midfield is paramount in January, there's no cohesion between defence and attack so we end up getting pegged back. Like I said during the game if he'd have told the midfield to press on a little further it would have left us wide open at the back which is what Bruce has been doing, we would have comfortably lost that. It's going to take some time to coach the Bruce out of these lot but with a new manager and another international break coming up we might be able to salvage some points between now and January where we can make some much needed changes and hopefully push on in the new year with some more favourable games to be played. Squeeky bum time, margins of error this season are very slim.

We have no midfield so it's either we try and hold the back line or we try and keep bodies forward and stay open at the back, no one is capable of transitioning play.

ASM having an off day, the only player that's looked any good in all of the first 8 games and all of a sudden its his fault?

The only viable defence is that some of the players are not up to fitness due to their lack of game time from chippy tits.

Seemed to me he was just trying to keep a lid on his emotions as you saw the mask slip a couple of times when he's talking about watching Supermac and Keegan back in the day. Inside he's probably excited for the opportunity and full of pride.

After everything I've read and heard about Fonseca now I think I'm going to be actually gutted if it doesn't transpire. He sounds like an exciting appointment with a great philosophy. After the last 2 and a bit seasons it'll just be good to have a manager with a style and philosophy full stop.

We're public enemy number 1 at the moment and because of his jovial, nice guy, buffoon temperament towards other managers, players and journalists his actual ability gets overlooked, glossed over and sometimes down right lied about. Bruce is just another stick to beat us with as they all flail around desperately trying to convince themselves we don't deserve anything nice and we won't amount to anything, let alone have a chance of beating the usual media darlings. I love it all, they hate us and they hate us because they're scared of us, keep throwing the shade it'll make the victory all that sweeter when it comes around.

Arteta vs Bruce Played 4 Won 4 Goals for 10 Goals against 0 Of course he's gutted

I'm already sold on Fonseca now, just get it done.

Man this is like Thursday takeover news all over again! #Cans2.0

Off for a beefy you mean?

YESSSS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

He's 0ne of those round the u-bend snakes you've got to break up with the toilet brush.

Literally on the previous page, I'm sooo lazy

Sorry if Giggs, just seen this posted yesterday, pretty damning:

At this moment in time I would snap your hand off at any of those 3, this list of premiership ex-players turns my stomach. I just want a decent jump up the ladder of managers, let's be honest we're not getting someone like Pep this early into a takeover and we don't have to imagine whoever is coming in is the one that has the opportunity to take us to the league title in 5-10 years time. We need someone who will steady the ship, get us pointing the right way in the table and build the foundations of a team that will be comfortable next season and maybe push some of the top 8 teams. It's going to be a long process, it doesn't have to all be achieved by 1 manager.

By all accounts the dead man walking tag doesn't help but lets not kid ourselves here, Bruce has been this bad at his job from the start, it was just papered over by some fantastic individual performances previously. The rot has well and truly set in now and the luck has run out, the players are criminally unfit, uncoached and the team has no discernible style/approach to games. At this point we probably stand a better chance if he does stop trying.

Borderline? He's flying in the face of negligence with one finger up on each hand

Bruce has always been a major part of what's wrong with the club, Ashley was obviously the main issue but Bruce has been stinking up the club far too long. The takeover seems to have exacerbated the issue and made it worse, the self destruction has hit critical mass and he needs to be jettisoned for any fire fighting to be done now. The longer he is here, the longer it takes the next guy to fumigate the place and undo the damage caused. Whether someone is lined up or not, his mere presence is causing serious damage to the club now.

Through all the emotion yesterday, from seeing the new owners, the opening atmosphere and the early goal. Bruce soured the occasion, the last visible blockade of an era were eager to forget, an onfield performance to rival the tepid, turgid football of the past 14 years. However there was still a feeling of hope, clouded by anger, but there bubbling under the surface, this was the beginning of something new. The sooner he is gone, the better, but I'd them get it right than make mistakes with haste. They've seen it first hand and I'm sure the management structure is an immediate concern for the new owners, once that hurdle is leapt the slow progress to recovery can be made. We saw a glimpse of what we can be again, we saw a glimpse of the old support, give us something to shout about and the sky is the limit. Its all been very surreal but yesterday it felt more concrete and I allowed myself to feel again, probably prematurely as the performance and result hurt like it hadn't in years but its good to know its still there. I cannot wait for the future of this club post Ashley.

Turgid

Anyone hear that supporter at 1000 volume