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Odds are Guehi is a Palace player until he isn't and he'll be treated as one until he isn't, it's not that deep

I think there's a train of this running online at the moment, itchy trigger fingers, we've never been the most patient! The longer time goes on with no movement, the more empty space people have to fill and historically we're experts at doom and gloom. Leave it to the experts and trust they are doing the very best they can to make us the strongest team possible under the constraints they're dealing with. #Wait

Can't wait to see us in full flow again with Joe bullying the opposition, last season was painful and we missed so many players especially Joelinton, to see them all back fighting fit now and out to prove something is gonna be a sight to behold.

Klopp is an absolute no brainer, agree the timing is wrong and he probably wants to stay away from the game entirely at the moment, but to suggest you wouldn't have him because we all hated him as Liverpool manager is very short sighted. Pickford for England springs to mind and Gordon when he was at Everton, pantomime villains.

Potter favourite with Carsley 2nd and Howe in 3rd, then you go outside that group to 7s and 8s with Poch and Klopp. Klopp would be interesting, how would the "Scouse not English" feel about that turmoil?

It wouldn't be a slow news day without a NO meltdown, he's going absolutely nowhere and he won't give it a second thought

I'm 100% behind the favourites tag and his post match honesty didn't fit into the seige mentality, that wouldn't have gone down well at all. His brief cameo was nothing but positive and should have earned him more minutes along side Palmer but Palmer didn't go against the grain in public.

Limited manager that galvanised the dressing room and created a team ethos, but he failed with an arsenal at his disposal that should be winning. Overstayed his usefulness through no fault of his own, thanks for the finals and restoring some pride but its time to move on.

Pickford - Deserves his spot Walker - Past it, no footballing brain, relies on his ever decreasing pace too much Stones - Great defender, poor tournament Guehi - Deserves his spot Trippier - Time to hang up the international boots. Shaw - As above, can't give 90 minutes, faded badly at the end. Rice - Never the man to control that engine room, great player but doesn't set the pace of the game and plays the ball to Stones far too often. Mainoo - Great potential, but must be in a double pivot, not mature enough to run that space alone. Foden - All fart Saka - Deserves his place. Kane - Retire already! Serial loser. Watkins - Deserves to start Tony - Deserves his place in the squad Palmer - Criminally underused Wharton - Deserves minutes, very tidy if unthrilling player. Gordon - Unbelievably underused Southgate - Thanks for the memories, top bloke, poor manager, has to rely on moments of brilliance and absolute screamers to win games.

Kane needs to retire from international football, we need to move on from him, watching him jog around for nearly an hour made my blood boil. Walker is finished at this level too, in fact none of the City lot particularly impressed. The better team won tonight and they deserved it but it still stings. We need a new manager and to start bleeding some new players in at international level.

Gutted, start the PL now so I can forget

What a load of pseudo-intellectual crap, I stopped reading after 342 paragraphs. Failing to see the nuance of criticising certain failings whilst also appreciating the progress made.

Absolutely, we were the England we've all been crying out for all tournament for lage swathes of that game and especially the first half was great to watch. I 100% agree with you on Southgate, I understand how he plays and I completely get it but I just don't agree with it with the players we have. But who am I to judge when we've just reached our 2nd final in 3 years! If he brings it home Sunday I will eat every last word I've ever said about him

Southgate is a nice guy, poor tactician but he has something that a lot of managers don't, luck. You can only beat what's in front of you but boy has he been lucky at times. He made the right subs today, probably 10 or 15 minutes too late, but it paid off.

Tbf he eas player of the tournament for the U21s and absolutely smashed it and still came back and played the season of his career. I just hope this hasn't knocked his confidence and makes him want to prove himself more. Given his attitude so far I'd say its the latter.

It could never happen but can you imagine England under Eddie!? At least Gordon would get the minutes he deserves.

Had a feeling from waking up this morning we were gonna win today. Hoping for the same on Sunday, surely, surely!

You know what, I don't care, I'm absolutely sick of England winning the wooden spoon fair play award every tournament and nothing more, screw it! If you can't beat them l, join them.

It was a soft pen, but anywhere else on the pitch its a foul and we certainly played well enough in that first half to at least go in level.

No one said he is good enough to take us to the next level, in fact I'd probably say 100% of the supporters agree that his position is the most important to upgrade on. What you're missing is the fact that he has been a great servant to the club, he had a huge part in getting us to the Champions League and scored our first UCL goal in 20 years. If you don't look on that fondly, regardless of his ability in terms of where we want to go, then how can you call yourself a fan? There are many other players past and present that don't deserve the money they're on, this is not the hill to die on.

Firstly he's limited but not severely, he's not Colback. Secondly, people fell in love with his tenacity, his work rate, his attitude and positive demeanour, all of which are world class.

I don't think any team has looked particularly good, Spain perhaps has stood out amongst a bad bunch but both games were pretty dire today and watching them made me think maybe we aren't that awful (in comparison). I think the game has changed and for the worse for spectators. This whole tournament has been a chore, the frustration for England is that we play with our foot on the brake, we see glimpses but few and far between.

Slovenia pens were poor, Diogo Costa did well in delaying his dives and going the right way, but all their pens were too central and at a great height for the keeper, then you've got the Portugal pens all tucked in the corner or into the side netting. They didn't even make Costa work for it.

Ronaldo pen saved again to send him over the edge

They are good at spoiling a match, suffocating the ball and harassing for the turnover. Not pretty to watch but really tough to beat.