Mattoon

Alternatively, lose to PSG and we're out no matter what, really all hinges on the PSG game.

So Arteta and all their supporters can find a safe space?

Last thing we need is Chelsea pulling their fingers out too, gonna be a tough ask to finish in Europe

I think that was a red, took the player before touching the ball and studs up

Think some of our players need to pull international "sickies" they need a rest, not travelling half way round the world for dead rubbers.

What's most embarrassing is they're abusing one of the best signings we've ever made, believed in something enough to come to a team that looked like it was heading for relegation, leaving a UCL team and single handedly hauled us up by the short and curries. Literally the last player that deserves any abuse, absolute dangers.

Anyone judging and blaming anyone for that game tonight needs throwing off the closest building. There are no mitigations for the amount of players we have missing, 5 or 6 players is a crisis, 13 players is armageddon. We're down to having to play kids, OAPs and 4th choice players, how do you get a tune out of that? Any more injuries and I'm pretty sure a few of us will have to dust our boots off. There is no way this could have been forseen, we're 3 years or so away from our bottom of the barrel players being anything but cannon fodder. Valiant effort from the Z team, take the L, hopefully the 2 week break puts us in a better position, but I said that last month so who knows at this point???

Can't wait to play these pricks at SJP

This has been horrific but what can we expect with no first team available. I've never known injuries like it, we've been cursed this season.

Poor from Pope, which is a shame because he's been so good all game. This has been eye bleedingly bad.

One angry rat off another one on

Ugh inevitable

Guaranteed 90+4 winner Fernández

All they've done since the takeover is bolt the doors of the well ridden paths of our predecessors already sat at the big table. So unbelievably scared of the super league they're happy to create one within the PL. There has to be anti-competition foundation at this point, the pattern of rule changes are far too obvious, even down to the technical area farce.

Whatever we do, however we climb the league, however long it takes, opposition fans will always say we bought/cheated our way there no matter the circumstances. So who cares about taking the path of least resistance? Let's find every and any loophole we can to cause maximum drama and fume, couldn't care less at this point.

I think a lot are letting the negative emotions of tonight rule their heads. We come back from worse scenarios in the UCL. As I said in the BVB thread, we've got 3 weeks until the next game, we should at least have Isak back by then, a win in Paris puts us right back in it. Currently Dortmund are the best side in this group.

A lot can change with 2 games to go and a 3 week break until the next game, pressure off, no one expects us to win in Paris and no one expects us to qualify from here. I'd be happy with a Europa place but it's not quite game over yet.

It is what it is, we looked good after the PSG result but Dortmund brought us back down to earth with back to back humblings. Extremely organised, great passing ability and speed and they play those triangles so well. Not impressed with the tactical fouling and lack of punishment and they were lucky at times with the 2nd bounce but overall they deserved the win. We're decimated by injuries and playing a game every 3 to 4 days, something has to give. This is our first year back after 20 years absence, we'll be back and we'll be better.

Well that's that then, what an absolutely frustrating match that has been.

They just so well drilled and know what they can get away with, any chance of us getting upfield in numbers is snuffed by a foul but not quite a yellow.

That should have been it!

Come on!!!

We playing in the SOL here or what?

Without Isak dropping deep to help build from the midfield, I wonder if we'll see Almiron or Gordon Central in the 2nd half to try and bring the ball in play higher up the pitch.

So many late tackles and professional fouls to prevent the counter so they can get numbers back and they get away with it every time, seen it in every one of our UCL games so far. Feels like a 2 tier booking system, infuriating.