bobbydazzla

A handful of makems survive the thermonuclear blast and immediately start partying in the streets because the dreaded Mags didn't get to win a cup Best day of their lives

anyone know if Ryan Giggs was in a boozer within 1.5 miles of Wembley when there was bother at the Euros ?

Fair dues, avoiding it because you feel less attached to the state of modern football is very different to avoiding it because you don't think you can't face the prospect of potentially watching us get beaten And I get where you're coming from, so much about the modern game is ruining the sport. It's increasingly hard to watch something that feels so removed from what it was supposed to be

I’ve done this in the past ahead of vital games when I felt I couldn’t mentally cope with the prospect of losing It was connected to much bigger issues around anxiety, catastrophic thinking and obsessional behaviour. Which fortunately I’ve now made a lot of progress to address At the end of the day, it’s just a game of football. We’ll win or lose and life will go on And in the bigger picture at least we’re playing in cup finals and the club has ambition again, this is a world away from the doom of the Ashley era

They could also try to get tickets via the 10am member general sale, but all of those costs would still apply And getting more than a couple of seats together in a block is highly unlikely, whether you're doing it via ballot or member sale. There's little to no chance of organising a gang of pals to be near each other

I wasn’t being serious Football’s a funny old game, we just need to replicate Coventry 1987 or Wimbledon 1988 cup final vibes

Aye but we’ve already lost the upcoming final 3-0 so we’re up to 4 games now

The club could could make low cost straightforward changes to fix the atmosphere Massive swathes of safe standing in Gallowgate and Leazes, designate them singing areas Standing & singing section in L7 next to away fans Break the family section down into smaller sections and spread it around the ground Have cheaper tickets for 18-25 year olds and make it easy to go as a group Make it easy for ST’s to move if they want to get in / out of a new standing area Do massive comms around the changes, so people know that matchgoing fans are being given the tools to make more noise, but it’s up to them to deliver It’s embarrassing that it’s needed but do some comms about getting involved, turning up with a positive attitude, learning songs & chants, keeping phones in pockets etc Make it very clear that all of this is for the greater good. We need to be United through the changes And if that doesn’t work then we are completely fucked

Same daft cunts who film a game with their phone when they could watch it in ultra HD on a massive fucking telly

Having watched the last couple of home games on telly rather than being there, it’s noticeable how many of our crowd shots show middle to old aged blokes sat stony faced with their arms folded and arses glued to seats Presenteeism is the word that immediately comes to mind

Fair play to all of you who tried to take an active stand against Ashley, grim reading some of these stories I’d walked away a few seasons before it became really toxic and had little appreciation of just how much abuse you’d had to endure for trying to force positive change

That Plymouth away end when it was still 2-1 looked utterly tragic Given a good account of themselves against Man City and yet they’re all either sat down looking like they’re at a wake or stood up playing with their phones Magic of the cup

The thing is about long term attendance is that inevitably, the atmosphere suffers. You constantly have to find new and erotic ways of spicing things up in the stadium. Someone said in another thread about having an ST but not having the same level of enthusiasm for games as in the past. They were just being honest. And I suspect that’s a wider issue. Doesn’t matter if they’re a member or an ST, but people go out of habit or fear of missing out, rather than being excited to be there and using that excitement to fuel the atmosphere. Got no idea how that changes though. Would a spanking new stadium possibly get people excited again ? Short term could it be reconfiguring seating to put like minded people together ? At a very basic level mixing up the pre-match routine so it’s not the same every time ? Felt like DJ Onedek did a good job of this for the semi *Be warned, suggesting pyro will mean ructions*

And this was almost a decade ago now. Yikes.

You forgot the most visible one...

and the L7 corner singing section, as brief as it was

No one in here has said we should add more ST's We're talking about giving members a ladder to climb versus other members

No. Not even sure how you've reached that conclusion. It's a closed shop because no ST's have been sold since summer 2022. There is no way to acquire one. We're talking about giving members a way to climb a ladder of priority versus other members. No one has suggested taking any ST's away

When was the last time there hadn't been a single season ticket available for over 4 seasons ? 30 years ago ?

What's your view on season tickets being a closed shop ? Is it just tough shit, you weren't here with an ST in Oct 2021 so you're not anything off us now ? What message does that send to the latest generation of younger fans who are coming up through the ranks ? It's nearly 5 seasons since Ashley left, the teenagers who are the best age to be NUFC daft are locked out of aways and had a miniscule chance of a cup final ticket

I try very hard not to type anything that could wrongly be interpreted as criticism of someone who has an ST. I have no resentment of people who have ST's. They chose to keep going under Ashley, others didn't. Both sides had their valid reasons and it's all in the past. But I'm annoyingly vocal about wanting to improve the situation members are currently in. And some ST's interpret this is as criticism of them. It absolutely isn't. I just feel strongly that we need a more balanced approach to prioritising the match going fanbase after 5 seasons of new ownership and a closed shop ST situation. At the moment 31,000 people with ST's from pre-2021 get almost all of the recognition from the club. Everyone else is left to feed off scraps, no matter how much or little effort they put into following NUFC. I think the club somehow bringing members closer to ST's (however this can be done) is a good thing. That's just my strong opinion. And I'm not even pissed off I missed out on a Wembley ticket. I was in a huff for about 24 hours when the criteria were announced but then accepted I had virtually no chance and made other plans

Would have been 2006 as we'd just signed Obafemi Martins and the brand spanking new "21 or 28" tune was non-stop on the bus on the way into Brum Paully was being an absolute peeve menace on the journey back (in a good way)

We got the train down the night before that one. Was a mad weekend I can still vividly remember Wraith getting a dig off a QPR fan then tumbling down a few rows of the home stand and plenty of people laughing at him from the away end