Stifler

Paris FC are being bought out by Europe’s richest person, and Red Bull. I wonder if Ligue 1 will be imposing new rules to prevent them from competing with PSG.

No I appreciate your feedback. I would prefer a stadium that is obviously designed for football, rather than an NFL stadium that can also host football. My point was that the facilities in it look amazing, and exactly what we need, and I also love the fact that you can see the pitch as soon as you walk in. My favourite stadium is actually Lucas Oil Field, it looks like a giant warehouse from the outside, but has that semi-open end behind one goal line.

Aye but then they have to go back and pay another £10 for another one. FFP/PSR would be no fucking issue at all for us.

I guess legally, when they were handed to the Premier League, they would have been legal. If they delayed it until they changed the rules, or determined it based on the new rules, then they would be subject to further legal action.

I get that, but unfortunately the way football is, and the way the EU, and U.K. laws are, there is no really way to prevent clubs from just spending all that money and implementing anything. Unfortunately I think we will get the Super League, I think the cartel will use this as a way of closing the Premier League up. They will accept teams spending fortunes, on the condition that there is no relegation, and possibly less teams, in order to free up spaces in the calendar for other fixtures.

You don’t put a salary spending cap on though, you put an expending cap on it.

We can’t compare to American leagues like the NFL. The NFL has no competition, it doesn’t even have a cup tournament that isn’t part of the league season. It can easily have things like wage caps, on top of that, the league owns the players, not the clubs. We have too much competition, pretty much every country in the world plays our football. If we imposed salary caps on our league, then every other league would have someone bankrolling them. We need FIFA to come in and propose spending caps, otherwise everything proposed, will just leave our league at the risk of being topped.

Man City’s supporters trust has sent a letter to Man City encouraging them to start petitioning to get Masters out. Additionally, I don’t think it’s been mentioned on here yet, but Masters has cancelled a meeting with broadcasters in order to attend the ‘emergency meetings’.

But it would only happen if alcohol was allowed in view of the pitch. At that point you’d be allowed to take your drink in the stands with you. People would just get a few drinks and take them with them.

I’ve been watching walkthrough YouTube videos of the Mercedes Benz stadium, and it looks amazing. From various points, including the main entrance point into the stadium, the concourse is open plan so that you can see the pitch. Absolute shame that the ‘No alcohol in view of the pitch’ laws would mean that we can’t do that.

Nah, I wanted too, but can’t make it.

It is capped at £200m, and isn’t classed as footballing revenue. Aston Villa owners put in £50m this way a few days ago, and this was the discussion.

Aye, they have just bought 33 aircraft with an option of 39 for their new airline. Each one of those new aircraft units costs as much as NUFC did.

I fully expect them to announce a takeover of the Falcons tomorrow now.

Leverkusen are classed as one of the biggest clubs in Germany. They won the league for the first time last season. Dortmund are classed as a massive club, and they have failed to win it for a long time, and only every do so as a 1 off. The cheap tickets don’t come without the global company owners, and the fan support doesn’t come without the cheap tickets that allows. How long until the likes of Stuttgart realise that they are now the German Crystal Palace? When do fans actually want to start having a chance of winning things? As soon as the Germans realise this, then that is when the cheap tickets etc all end. Let’s see where their appetite is when they are trudging to Die Silverlink for €120 knowing they still aren’t likely to mount a challenge.

I find the German league to be a fucking myth to be honest. Yeah ok there are some good parts about it, but people go on like it’s a bastion of perfection. The league is entirely dominated by Bayern Munich, even if you have money like RB Leipzig, you get a good player and he’s going to Bayern. The majority of clubs are owned by global companies, ok fans ‘own’ 51%, but none of the good things that the Bundesliga has would have been possible without the fact that global companies own the other 49%. People often cite cheap tickets, but they can get expensive, and Bayern charge more for Champions League games than Aston Villa have introduced. They get good attendances, but plenty of crowds are outside of the communities they represent in Silverlink style retail parks.

Good, eventually the smaller clubs will be asking why they are losing £4 per season or so because of legal bills. Let’s not forget that in the last month, the Premier League has lost 2 legal battles against its own member clubs. 2 battles they said they would win. You have Everton on the sidelines possibly waiting for their takeover to go through to also take them to court. It’s ok for Arsenal etc to lose £4m a season, but what about the likes of Ipswich? What about when the clubs like us and Villa who never voted for these rules, don’t agree with them etc all of a sudden asking why we are paying a legal bill to keep something we didn’t vote for, and warned against?

They also, and stay with me here, tried to grab control of professional football in England with project big picture, which everyone forgets about.

Look at the regulators we have now. We have OFGEM who sided with the energy companies and increased fuel prices far above what was required, and is still keeping them high. OFWAT who allow the water companies to pump your shits out to sea, instead of cleaning the water, and letting Thames water be on the verge of bankruptcy. OFCOM who allow BNPNews to call itself a news channel, but not regulate what they say, whilst the BBC got bollocked that one time they never towed the Tory party line. I full expect an independent football regulator to have a board of Jim Ratcliffe, John Henry, Stan Kroenke, Daniel Levy, and chaired by supercunt Rick Parry who has spent his whole career trying to hand the footballing world to Liverpool.

Yeah, it certainly helps. If Atletico Madrid can get that for their stadium, then NUFC would argue that we could get similar. Assuming we are not regularly in the Champions League, we would argue that we are in a bigger more globally recognised domestic league, and have a larger capacity, which would balance it out. In all honesty, if PIF could have their time again, I’m sure they would have singed commercial deals with the club under Ashley, with break clauses in it in the event that he never sold the club to them. That way the deals would have been there before the takeover and suspicion, and new rules came along.

Sounds like he’s a cheap ass to be honest.

It’s part of the Premier League rules though, It’s not exclusive to us. What you need is someone who wants to sponsor Newcastle for a certain fee, being told he’s not allowed, but requesting to sponsor Liverpool for the same fee and being told he is allowed to that, and taking the Premier League to court.

I mean he placed an image of SJP over the mouth of the river Tyne for a potential new stadium. It’s on you if you didn’t see (sea?) the joke.

Lee Charnley, Mr L. Charnley, Mr Lee. C, and Mr L. C.

If this takeover gets approved, then the loans will likely be paid back during the transaction, like ours to Ashley. Everton will be in a decent position if it goes ahead. They won’t be able to invest, but should get themselves back to break even, with the new stadium and the increased income that comes with it due.