Stottie

Yeah, an impact player no longer having any impact whatsoever.

Collins and Tomkins both doubts Collins is very poor. I wouldn't imagine is replacement is up to much either.

not an imposter. me, you and 99% of anyone that watched saw him for what he was. He was anonymous in the derbies. Never a good sign for the player he's supposed to be.

If it had been Tiote.... I didn't see Sky's coverage, but in the HT analysis I saw, there were ridiculous comments about Colo giving away a definite penalty for some minor contact AFTER HE HAD CLEARED THE BALL. Is that bias or just braindead punditry? Joe Allen gave the ball away in Danny-Simpson-on-a-bad-day style at least three times. After ten games, he has no assists and no goals. Even the pricey Mackem managed some last year.

Not bad, but a shame to concede a goal like that to a hoof. A bigger shame that Colo couldn't forget it either.

He did against us earlier on in the season the tit. Van Persie did a naughty elbow to the face in the game at SJP too. Oh, and that's offside.

MOTM. Welcome back Colo.

Did Demba give them their only effort on target?

Aye, it's not as if they handballed one off the line or anything.

Is this Santon's debut for us at RB?

I cannot stand Liverpool but that's not a red card

A question for the older lads on here, but isn't this "historical rivalry between Liverpool and Manchester United" hype simply rewriting history? I'm 43 and I don't remember any great rivalry between them in the late 1970s and 1980s before Ferguson. At that time, Manchester United were simply not a competitive club. Liverpool's rivals were teams like Forest, Ipswich, Everton, Arsenal, and Villa. Conversely, in the Sky/Premiership era, Liverpool have barely been competitive and have watched on as Manchester United have domestically surpassed their historical achievements. So hyping the rivalry helps Man U forget they were massive underachievers and were even relegated when Liverpool were coming to be the main force in English football and helps Liverpool forget they have been mainly also-rans for the last twenty years. If Man U have rivals, they are Arsenal, Chelsea and now Citeh. Liverpool are just a team that raises their game against them.

I agree entirely with Brummie. It could have been any football fans. And that Boris Johnson quote, ferk me. A big one in the eye to anyone who says he's just a harmless upper-class twit.

I live overseas and have hardly been to the match for twenty years, so for me personally, that era is a stronger impression of "what its like at the match" than what its actually like now. I used to hate the monkey chants etc. but I must admit to being surprised when I read that someone had been banned for "yids" comments/songs at a game against Spurs, because pretty much the whole Gallowgate used to do it. This isn't nostalgia by the way, just a statement of what it feels like when a seemingly accepted norm changes on you. Obviously you have to live with the times and it's a change for the better. You can have plenty of terrace humour without bringing discrimination into it. The other one no-one has mentioned is that every woman walking past the crowd would get "Get your tits out for the lads". Every single one. fwiw, when the Suarez thing happened, it came out that Stuart Pearce had been caught repeatedly racially abusing Paul Ince on the pitch, but got away with writing a letter of apology. Suffice to say that that was deemed a suitable punishment based on the norm at the time. If I may add a comment, it would be that Stuart Pearce must have more friends in football than Ron Atkinson, because the latter would never get the U21 job.

I normally hate them, but this international break is welcome. We look unfit and disorganized.

Goal of the Season!

Three games in, Liverpool haven't scored from open play and have conceded 7. They had the third best defence last year.

Aye, many a home team would get a pen there. Shades of us vs. Swansea away last season. Lots of (eye-catching to the easily impressed) passing and possession from Rodgers team that inevitably breaks down at the opponent's eighteen yard line without a chance being created. Their opponents hit them with class on the break and they're lucky its not two they've conceded.

Podolski - Carzola - Podolski there. Great break!

7th. If our strikers get injured, maybe 10th. With AVB and di Matteo coming in and the Song/RVP exodus, I think the chance was there to put pressure on the other Top 4 sides.

A bit baffling if we did make bids for de Jong and Carroll and then get no striker, especially after selling Best. Same goes to a lesser degree for Debuchy and Douglas. If there is a silver lining, the lack of striking options may force us into playing 4-3-3 or 4-4-1-1 with HBA in the hole. Going into the window, the big worry was losing Ba for 7m, so at least that didn't happen.

Rory Smith ‏@RorySmithTimes Sorry, it's late. Liverpool have knocked £450k p/w off the wage bill. That was why Carroll was loaned, I would guess. cost cutting it seems Does that mean Spearing was on 200k?!

We shouldn't have sold Best if he's not going to be replaced.

If Abramovich ever loses interest, I bet Chelsea won't be able to live off their glories (a not insignificant three Prems, one CL, one CL runner up) anything like Liverpool have off theirs, most of which won't be in lots of their new fans' memories. Its amazing that the Liverpool bandwagon has kept rolling. They still sell the fourth most shirts worldwide.

Stats aren't everything, but I saw a blog in February or so that reckoned most of Downing's Opta numbers, especially the crossing ones, were almost identical for Villa and Liverpool. It suggested the difference was Darren Bent's finishing versus Suarez's. I don't think he's an England player or anything, but I think he's a bit better than Liverpool have made him look. The "no assists" thing makes it sound like its all his fault. The way Liverpool have played him and the pressure of the fee have clearly messed up Carroll, moreso than Downing I think.