Stottie

Rooney and Ronaldo, the ultimate flat track ponies.

One of their fans had a blog with big numbers last season for chances created from Downing, Henderson, and Adam. Of course it didn't go into detail and those were in other teams with other players.

So five points against those three in close succession would make us contenders beside Arsenal and Tottenham. Are they expected to get 5 points from those games as well to be a top four side are they exempt from Kamara's rule? Man United won the title with a mighty five points in six games against the other CL teams the season we were relegated. They lost home and away to the team that came second. Their record against the bottom twelve? Played 24 Won 23 Drawn 1. http://www.statto.com/football/teams/manchester-united/2008-2009 For any football pundits reading this, that's FIVE points from SIX games when they were TESTED.

55k+ plus and five years means 12-13 million quid gross before any bonuses and image rights that might be offshore. What tax/NI do footballers pay? What's he looking at net? Six million or so over the five years? Whatever it is, come on Colo, you know it makes sense!

Well played DG!

Held on against Everton just like ManYoo last week for any moaners out there. WE ARE SECOND!!!!!

They looked off the pace till Drenthe went right and that may be a factor with Jonas's subdued showing. Marv's been tidy but nothing else. With both first choice CMs out, this second half should be that "test" everyone has talked about. I reckon had Everton hit that corner last week, they'd have scored against Manyoo. Textbook execution. Credit where credit's due.

Face up lads! Still winning! Beautiful inswinging corner btw. Great pace and hellish curl on it.

Ferk me! What a hit! Has he now scored more for us than against us?

Just noticed on .com, but its Andre Marriner. The same one as Everton away last time when Felliani should have walked and it was a blatant last man penalty against Coleman. It was also him that sent off Tiote against Stevanage. They conceded in their last seven, so I'm still fairly confident, but I can see a decision or two going against us.

49 out of 99 results wrong so far.

Where'd she get the "Le" in "Le Dreamboat" from?

The sack for McLeish will do for me. Vengeance has been had on Villa already with the 6-0. Blackburn sound like a terrible setup but I'd rather they stay up and Wham stay down to spite the obvious person. Martinez is a good talker but Wigan are on borrowed time, so them for one. Can't cheer on London clubs, so QPR for another. A meh level Sunderland is the most entertaining (false hopes, proclamations of strength on paper etc.), so not them. Stoke as they play football now would be nice, but I suppose Wolves are more realistic.

Sorry if someone's mentioned it but given that we need him to sign up, wouldn't it be wise to hit Coloccini with a good offer now before the big three games we've got coming up? If we do as well as we could do, it's only going to bring more attention to him and strengthen his agent's hand. Given what QPR did and their defending against Arsenal, I can see us getting a result off Chelsea at least. The longer he goes unsigned, the more likely an Enrique type situation is to develop.

Shame for the lad, but its a position where we do have decent replacements. I won't tempt fate and suggest some others where we don't.

If we do beat Everton, a shock win for them here would be best all round I think. Two in a row for Brucie should keep him in the job into the New Year and them keeping us second would be sweet. After the 1-6 last time at Old Trafford, you'd expect them to come out all guns firing. If its Kieran Richardson at left back, Nani should have a field day.

Everton pack the midfield so we could do with him back. It could be a repeat of Wigan with 3 vs. 2 in the middle, which would be much better with Tiote than Guthrie. Big one I think is to get Jonas forward this week and attacking Hibbert. That alone should win us some free kicks and drag them out of shape. Like Wigan, if we're not making chances, give HBA the second half. With Baines playing for them, no silly fouls for tackles from behind etc. near the box, thank you.

Yep. Hope the scousers trip up too. QPR is a tricky game for the Spuds as well. You get nowt for it and I shouldn't be arsed, but another one conceded by Citeh means we're two ahead in the fewest goals conceded category.

Bolton would walk the CCC I would have thought.

Evans in ahead of Ferdinand?

Hypothetically speaking, if he doesn't want to stay, don't let him join any of Arsenal, Spurs and Liverpool. Not that we are realistic contenders for fourth, but helping one of those clubs cement a position there isn't our job. If he won't sign but wants to stay in England, get on the phone to Citeh or Chelsea. I'd even take a lower fee than give him to Liverpool like Enrique. Its great that we've got wages under control, but Coloccini deserves to be treated as an exception. Any replacement would cost a fortune, so I think we should pay him whatever it takes to keep him.

Thanks for the report Ash Sorry if someone else has posted it but http://img17.imageshack.us/img17/9376/vlcsnap2011102714h51m48.png That's clearly a fair challenge. Only saw the highlights and we looked unlucky with the above and the deflected free kick they scored. The last looked borderline onside. The defending on their first was woeful mind. Another chance goes begging. More gutted than normal seeing how our results have been going.

Poor things. Won't somebody think of the global brand? Selling replica shirts, bog seats and other tat to Asians is what football is all about. I don't see any more romance in the corporate PLC model Man U pioneered than the billionaire model, and spare me any plea for sympathy over the uncompetitiveness of football when you've enjoyed the un-level playing field for 20 years. Ferguson broke the transfer record three times before he won the league, he had nine million pound players in 1993, and he didn't have to sell anybody - nobody else had more than 5. Their average spent per player was higher than 3rd placed Norwich's record signing, the gap in resources was about as big as between us and Man City. Then they went and broke the record again by signing Keane for £3.75m. In the last 30 years the only league winners who could probably argue they didn't have a huge money advantage over most of the competition are Leeds and Villa, no surprise they both fell apart soon after. You're right. Fergie's had great success but with a massive sleeping giant, possibly the biggest in all of world sport. They did it just at the right time as well with money about to be concentrated at the top. All that foreign exposure and the CL allowing someone else to come in and nick the league without you losing the gravy train. The Glazers though are a huge millstone around their neck. It was obvious they needed reinforcements in midfield after the CL final debacle but they got tinkering at the edges (Young) and Fergie started sprouting bollocks about "no value in the market". Why the feck should that matter to them? People don't refer to their ground as the "Theatre of Value for Money". The club is way in the black and could afford Sneijder (sp) or Schweinsteiger or Yaya when he was going easily with their own generated revenue. As things stand, how many of their players would get significant playing time in the Citeh team? Once you get past Rooney, Vidic, and Nani, it gets pretty tricky pretty quickly.

Strong team please. Let's keep the run going.

I'm sure as hell not clicking on that link but what would it take for us to finish bottom half in a typical year now? 0.9 points a game?