BrettNUFC

Doesn't matter what standard of players you have, Martinez had Swansea playing that style of football in the lower leagues whilst nearly every other manager was sticking with the 'anti-football', why is this? Genuine question, give me an English manager who plays this brand of exciting football? Hell, if we had one he'd probably in charge of the national team by now if he had excited well enough, instead we have Roy Hodgson, is he another 'anti football' manager? I’m just saying a lot want us to play a style in which every fan in the country wants to see their club play but very few get to see it. Even the champions of England currently don't get that brand of football and they have internationals probably twice what we do.

I think people come on here and make this management game sound piss easy, like. Why don't we just play exciting football? That simple. There's literally just a handful of managers playing this type of football in the PL and not all of them doing it successfully. Obviously all football fans, managers and players included want to see this type of football, so why do so few even attempt to try and play this way on a regular basis?

Could be anyone as owner, circumstances don't change and not sure why they would. Pay money to watch and suport the team not the owner. Support the team, ignore the regime? Say you're supporting the team all you like but the reality is that your financial support perpetuates MA's abstinence from reinvesting, carrying on on his counter-productive bullshit. You might say with Ashley, Tan et al as owners this is just football these days; but it deosnt stink any less. Never said it doesn't stink but why should the owners drive you out of doing what you love and that's going to watch the team you support. I'll be here long after Mike Ashley and there's nothing to say the next owner won't be just as much of a c***. Typical short term c***. Newcastle is my city. Newcastle is my club. I'll still be here long after all these c***s are gone. Fans can do what they please, if they refuse to watch Newcastle whilst Ashley is owner or Pardew is manager, that's their right to do so. I hated Sam Allardyce more than any other manager in the world and then we give him the job but why should things the hierarchy decide force me out of going to SJP? Shouldn't work like that in football in my opinion. Ashley has still brought in players I love watching here and I still get enjoyment from going so I see no reason to give it up even if others have done. Suppose everyone has a line but i'm still miles away from crossing it.

Could be anyone as owner, circumstances don't change and not sure why they would. Pay money to watch and suport the team not the owner. Support the team, ignore the regime? Say you're supporting the team all you like but the reality is that your financial support perpetuates MA's abstinence from reinvesting, carrying on on his counter-productive bullshit. You might say with Ashley, Tan et al as owners this is just football these days; but it deosnt stink any less. Never said it doesn't stink but why should the owners drive you out of doing what you love and that's going to watch the team you support. I'll be here long after Mike Ashley and there's nothing to say the next owner won't be just as much of a c***. Well while Pardew's here, any chance you could ask your Dad if we could play exciting football, it's all that's left of this season. I told him to stop the hoof ball at the start of the season, hard to please you lot. Always wanting more and more.

Could be anyone as owner, circumstances don't change and not sure why they would. Pay money to watch and suport the team not the owner. Support the team, ignore the regime? Say you're supporting the team all you like but the reality is that your financial support perpetuates MA's abstinence from reinvesting, carrying on on his counter-productive bullshit. You might say with Ashley, Tan et al as owners this is just football these days; but it deosnt stink any less. Never said it doesn't stink but why should the owners drive you out of doing what you love and that's going to watch the team you support. I'll be here long after Mike Ashley and there's nothing to say the next owner won't be just as much of a cunt.

Could be anyone as owner, circumstances don't change and not sure why they would. Pay money to watch and suport the team not the owner.

The extreme measures Ashley will go to get some publicity for SD

All for this, been banging this drum for too long Thought he might have tamed his ways given his long spell on the side lines and his crying in the media but nope, turned out to be the same cunt we had in the first game of the season. Sell him.

I'm of the opinion Campbell won't make it but if we did get rid of him now i don't think it would be wise as he's 19 and could still yet improve on areas of game which he struggles with. He's a good finisher, good movement and has the pace but there's some major weaknesses in his game which are all too glaring even in the under 21's but he's very much one to keep an eye on and let him develop. I don't think he'll make it but i'm more than happy to keep him under our wing than let him go for the next of nothing.

You're happy to avoid a relegation battle, that's the limit of your ambition. Outside the usual suspects, like Swansea and Wigan who both won domestic cups last season? How's that my ambition? You can't just out jump a side like Liverpool/Spurs with the quality they have in one swoop unless you have a special season. It's going to take hard work in the transfer windows to buy and sell the right players to put you in a realistic position to challenge. Liverpool fell down a couple of levels but are working there way back up slowly, Spurs invested well in recent years but they spent good money to get themselves in the position they are, albeit they’ve spent badly on some transfers but at least they took the gambles on the whole and paid off to an extent. What I’m saying is this season for me was about just bouncing back from last season and getting ourselves back in a position in which could challenge the top 6 again and so far we’ve done that but it’s going to take more effort from Ashley to dig deep and actually invest in the team to push on if we seriously want to break in to the top 6. Finishing 5th and signing Anita was never going to be enough to sustain that challenge but it almost certainly shouldn’t have accumulated in a relegation battle but at least we’ve brushed them woes aside now and got back amongst the top clubs. It’s back down to Ashley to invest in the squad so we can really push on. Yes a better manager would help us greatly (see Everton) but I don’t think that big of an upgrade is ever coming with Ashley as owner, but I’d love to be proved wrong in this case.

When we finished 5th we brought in Cisse who buried everything he hit, who is going to do that this time? Do you seriously think we can finish 5th? No, i don't. I said before the season began the top 6 was sealed shut with quality sides and would take a special season from a club to break into that and i still can't really see anyone doing it. I predicted 8th and still think 8th is where we will finish. Irony is the people who won't be happy with 8th will be the people who predicted another relegation dog fight. All i wanted this season was us to steady the ship, stay clear of any relegation talk and have a good run in the cups. The cups has been another disaster but that's been the case long before Pardew arrived but it doesn't make it any easier to take. League wise i'm more than happy with how we are doing and don't see any reason why we can't keep pushing on even i do think the top 6 is unbreakable, but there's no harm in giving it a good go.

Madness how soon as we hit a bit of poor form the attitude swings totally in the opposite direction. Already calling 5 straight defeats when it's not really as bad as you've made out. Yes things went our way against Stoke but things then went the opposite way since but you don't mention that? We were decent against Arsenal, we were decent against West Brom then poor yesterday and very flat. Chances are we will get beat of City but there's no reason to think we'll just roll over give them 3 points. We've still got a chance ourselves of getting something from the game just like we did against Arsenal, just need to cut out silly errors. Don't try and turn this run of poor form into something it isn't just to create a negative attitude around the forum. We are still in a solid position in the league and better placed than many anticipated at the start of the season. It’s just another disappointing bitter defeat early on in a prestigious cup that has angered many, and rightly so but that shouldn’t take the shine off what has been a very good start to our league campaign. Brett, he's had a very good spell with 7 wins in 10, prior to that spell he was a bit s*** culminating in rolling over to the Mackems. I'm stating nothing as fact, nor trying to turn anything into anything it's not. All I know is recently he's again failed to rotate his squad, tiredness () and injuries are starting to bite, and we could potentially be looking at a losing streak which he found hard to break last year. All of the above were circumstances that sent him into the abyss last season. Well i'll stick my neck out once again and back him to turn this losing streak around and finish strongly. We had this kind of period when we finished fifth around the same sort of time but he pulled it around, no reason why he can't do it again. Not that there's any major concerns here, there really isn't. It's a bunch of L's beside of form now but every team will go through the phases of form, nothing to get carried away about. All teams have had same fixtures and legs will be tired, injuries are still minimal and there's no need to panic.

You're the perfect customer, you're barking mad. Why becasue i'm not all doom and gloom saying i may as well chuck my season ticket in as the season is now over and nothing to play for anymore? Was only after Palace we were going into the festive with postivie attitudes looking how we are only x amount of points off top 4 or even top. Suddenly a couple of league defeats and out the cup and people are saying our season is now over, it's pathetic.

Madness how soon as we hit a bit of poor form the attitude swings totally in the opposite direction. Already calling 5 straight defeats when it's not really as bad as you've made out. Yes things went our way against Stoke but things then went the opposite way since but you don't mention that? We were decent against Arsenal, we were decent against West Brom then poor yesterday and very flat. Chances are we will get beat of City but there's no reason to think we'll just roll over give them 3 points. We've still got a chance ourselves of getting something from the game just like we did against Arsenal, just need to cut out silly errors. Don't try and turn this run of poor form into something it isn't just to create a negative attitude around the forum. We are still in a solid position in the league and better placed than many anticipated at the start of the season. It’s just another disappointing bitter defeat early on in a prestigious cup that has angered many, and rightly so but that shouldn’t take the shine off what has been a very good start to our league campaign.

I'm the opposite, really do like him and when he's playing well in the under 21's consistently yet Obertan can apparently storm off last week then get half an hour today is a joke. I know it's not same positions but we had no CM's on the bench today and he deserved at least that.

Was disappointed not to see Bigi given a chance. But he went with experience but tactics were clearly not spot on as we couldn't control the match for long periods. Anita and Tiote were being overrun, Ben Arfa was dropping too deep when we had possession and Sissoko and Gouffran weren't stretching them enough. We got the goal then we should have killed the game off but it was just the same and both teams couldn't get control which was poor. I want to see replay but looked like Eliot had a shocker to beat from there and then we got done off a corner which you could see was coming and they are a massive threat from them. Overall was shocking by Pardew and some horrendous individual performances. Just another flat FA cup performance which we've seen all too often down the years and it's horrible.

Don't get after that sort of performance by manager and player alike that the two usual suspects (shola/obertan) threads are bumped and filled with criticism. There was far worse on show than just them two today but they won't get half the blame. Was shocking performance all around and only a couple could probably say they had a good game arguably. We play the kids in this cup, we get knocked out. We go full strength just about and still get knocked out. Fucking shameful from the lot of them!

Last few minutes.. as if we still had a shape by then

In also by far the hardest league he's played in i must add... Jelavic was scoring goals for fun along with Cisse at a similar time but his dried up too and never really came back. Moyes fault? Martinez fault? Only so much blame can go to the manager before the player has to start taking responsibility.

I agree he should never been put out wide, was an ill judgement and i've criticised Pardw for not having the balls to tell Ba to fuck off sooner with his demands to play centrally and giving in to them when the team should have came first. However because Cisse played a handful of games out wide, he was then put back in the centre and was given a long period of time there but the goals dried up and didn't look half the player. You see other strikers around the country going on wings then back through the middle and so forth but don't suddenly look like a striker who would struggle 3 divisions downwards. Mental to think it's Pardew's fault when players go through bad spells, and let the player off with a large share of the criticism.

Love that gif everytime it pops up

He does and he'll also take a large portion of the praise for his revival in that case Players and manager need to share responsibility through good times and bad. Easy to place the blame on the managers door step, not as easy to place it solely on the player. think you were pulled about this before no? we sign a player who comes in and plays amazing, as you've just admitted pardew was complicit in his turn to ratshit, yet he deserves praise for getting him back to where he was before he ruined him? you see how that doesn't quite work surely? I just don't buy into that it's that clear cut as you make it out to be. Thinking like that is basically saying it's Pardew's fault Cisse is playing shit, but when he starts scoring again, it's Cisse who's turned himself around. Just a harsh view. Reason why i believe Pardew was to blame with Tiote is he basically was given him too much do in times of crisis when likes of Cabaye was injured and we were stuck with Bigi/Jonas/Marv/Anita in the middle and the weight was all put on his shoulders to step up and he wasn't up to it. The ability wasn't there nor was the confidence. He's spun the confidence of the side back into his favour though, got a good run on the go and got Tiote back doing the basics well.

What was Armstrong like? He's been banging them in. Agree on Alnwick I quite like him tbh, obviously still early stages for him but he's took the step up to this level well and all he can do is keep going the way he is. His attitude impresses me a lot. I love bigi and probably being bias but you can just tell he’s a cut above this standard as well.

He does and he'll also take a large portion of the praise for his revival in that case Players and manager need to share responsibility through good times and bad. Easy to place the blame on the managers door step, not as easy to place it solely on the player.

I stuck by him for a fair while but he lost my support 3/4's away through last season when things got real ugly. Thought we'd never get the old Tiote back and started to actually believe he was simply just found out. I wasn't happy when he was put straight back in against Cardiff when Anita was playing so well but fair play to him, he's hardly put a foot wrong, justified Pardew's faith in him and put in some excellent performances, fantastic turnaround which i never expected.