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Not that a bad deal. If he'd nailed down a place in the team and was happy playing then you offer a new contract with the clause removed or a greater release value.

Blaming agents for everything since Byrne got outed. Maggie Magents

Will be a bit miffed if Rafa sells, doesn't get backed and leaves himself. With our current striker options, any incoming manager would surely set the formation to benefit Mitro if still with us.

Agree with a lot of this. There are thousands of people who support teams outside of the premiership/championship, and I'm sure they love those teams as much as villa fans do. Don't particularly care if they go in to admin and end up in the 3rd tier, they'll still exist and the supporters can still support.

Be the next Thauvin and worth 50m plus a year after we sell him. Maybe. Happy if he's sold cos Rafa feels he doesn't suit his system or doesn't like his attitude, as long as Rafa stays. If we sell him then Rafa leaves and the above happens I'll be fcuked off frankly. Think he deserves a shot at the premiership with someone.

All rip in to Bruce for going on about them, neglecting the fact that one of their small time top officials takes a shitty fanzine interview as an opportunity to have a pop at us. Bellends.

Probably because he'd never get a line of credit anywhere ever again and as an invester that's probably not a wise move. Bet his rep has taken a bit of a beating over SAFC as is.

Dodgy Colo red wasn't it?

In our current position we need players for the now and Rafa has worked with Slimani this season so is less of a risk...if he wants him. We then need another younger striker with potential to compete with him, from a lower price bracket (sadly this isn't likely to be Mitrovich). That then gives us 2/3 seasons for the junior to bed in and hopefully takeover. Then we say a fond farewell to Slimani and a new up and coming youngster comes in to gain experience without being thrown in at the deep end. After that then hopefully the academy is doing it's a job and you unearth the next Harry Kane! Circle of life, bitches. At the moment we are paying the price for past failings and our youngsters are being expected to do a job from the go - see Mitrovich, Thauvin, even Merino and Murphy though Rafa has obviously taken the long game with them as he should, but really we needed them to hit the ground running. Its the project Rafa wants and why he has talked about the academy as part of it. If that means taking a hit for a couple of seasons then so be it.

Happy to organise a plane to fly over us but no desire for anything actually productive for their club. How big is their loan to the 3rd party? Would the parachute payment/player sales (lol) cover it? Surely Ellis will either have to take a hit himself or just go in to admin now.

"The only ones who try and give me a bit stick at work, are the ones who don't even go to Newcastles games and haven't got a clue about football." Like it's that complicated. You're heading to the 3rd tier of English football cos you're shite whilst the mighty toon lord it up in the top half of the Prem.

Release the takeover tracker.

If Rafa was backed then i'd always back him over any player. If Rafa were to leave, then I'd happily give Mitro a chance over any other permanent forwards we currently have on our books.

Sometimes our players just seem to run at the opposition hoping they forget to tackle.

Cool as f**k

Team game so at least 9.09% culpable. Undeniable evidence he's finished and don't want him back here.

Apart from being limited, I don't recall hearing anything negative about him during his time here. However, on being told you were surplus to requirements then you gracefully accept time is up and leave. If you don't, then you are accepting of whatever treatment you receive.

Not sure why there'll be fume today. Most people already know nowt is happening. Are people really going to get to 4-5pm and think, "f***, we're not signing anyone are we?" People have been practically copy and pasting their own posts for weeks. I keep on thinking I'm accidently clicking in to the same topic each time but we could easily just have one thread at the mo content wise. I expect an increase today, hopefully with some new material.

This for me. Get a striker that Rafa wants and plays in his system, then the fate of one other team shouldn't be a huge concern.

Yup. Not a clue what Mitro has done, but he’s very clearly done something to irk Rafa. Good/bad is a bit of a basic way to look at it. I think it's much more likely that Rafa thinks he's unsuitable for us, but could be suitable to Brighton because of the way they play. Mitrovic simply isn't good enough for us to change the way we play to suit someone who's let us down time and time again with sending offs and suspensions - which is obviously the thing that's irked Rafa. I see this argument all the time - which would make sense if we didn’t persist on playing Joselu.If Mitro doesn’t fit our system, then Joselu certainly doesn’t either. I’m sure someone will point to Mitro’s disciplinary record now - so I’ll answer that anyway... when was he last sent off in a game? It’s a complete myth that we’ll go down to 10 men with him in the side because he’s not been sent off in recent times. If anything, Mitro would suit our system more with a bit of physicality in his game allowing players like Murphy the chance to get close to him. Whereas Joselu either loses it or taps it to nobody. Because Joselu doesn't get himself sent off and suspended and does as he's told. Whether you agree with Rafa on that is your choice, but I do. If he was good enough/suitable enough for us to put up with it, I'd agree, but he just isn't. The discipline argument is a completely valid argument, like. Not getting sent off during the odd 10 minute cameo isn't anything to hang your hat on and his disciplinary record remains a joke. Whatever argument for him playing is negated by that for me. https://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/aleksandar-mitrovic/ausfaelle/spieler/51152 He’s played over 1,400 minutes in 35 appearances since his last red card, so that argument is a load of nonsense. A load of nonsense if you conveniently ignore West Ham, which there's no reason to do whatsoever. The conversation is about getting sent off and going down to 10 men, did that happen? Howay man, just admit you forgot about it and it completely f***ed your argument If Mitro elbows you in the face but the ref doesn't see it, can it break your nose?

Looks like a Jermaine Jenas and Justin Bieber hybrid.

Someone lowballed me on a car which I deemed so derisory that I ignored them. They came back a couple of days later with a more acceptable starting point. Does that make me Mike?

250m is low. That is what the club was worth a decade ago. With the new PL money top tier clubs can become decent investment vehicles if managed correctly. IMO Newcastle has other advantages over run of the mill PL clubs as well. Think this might burst a few bubbles in here, but from a business perspective we are a run of the mill PL club. We are no different than Stoke, Watford, Bournemouth, and Swansea. Just like all of them and really anyone outside the top 6, we are closer to not being a PL club at all than being a top tier club. This is why there is such a massive gap in the valuations of the top 6 and everyone else. It's hard to fathom Liverpool or Spurs being relegated so those clubs are in a similar price bracket to some American sports teams based on the massive, global TV deals, merchandise, tickets, etc. For everyone else the threat of relegation, and with it the loss of the primary revenue stream, is more real than ever. The best way for Ashley to get the price he wants (and likely much more) would be to place a bet on Rafa's ability to move us into a much more secure position. Establish us as a "safe" club. But he's not going to do that so he'll continue to gamble, benefit from the global branding he's getting for free, and see if someone will eventually take the risk and pay him what he wants. Hmm. Bigger, better stadium in a better location, bigger fanbase (with the reputation, fair or otherwise, of being particularly fanatical), a history of competing in Europe (and the CL, in fact). How can you say we're the same - in terms of potential - as the other clubs listed? Get it right - which involves risk - and we'll be going much further than a Watford or a Swansea, and more quickly. There's plenty of reasons we're better from a romantic point of view, but that's irrelevant unless we find out Jeff Bezos or the Sultan of Arabia is secretly a Geordie at heart. The stadium and crowds are a blip on the total revenue. A history of competing in Europe is meaningless as it is history and provides exactly £0 in revenue. Even if a prospective owner was comfortable paying a bit of a premium based on our potential, our stadium, etc., it would be eye opening to calculate the cost of attempting to infiltrate the top 6 and become one of them. And if you're not one of them, you are one bad appointment and/or a few bad signings from risking your PL status and future revenue. You can't just value clubs on current financial terms, it's also about the brand and potential growth. Yeah it's worth £0 now but commercially, with equal investment, we would always generate far greater revenue than the majority of teams outside the top 6. Why are PCP not offering far less for any other lower mid table team?

Given the current circumstances of possible relegation? If we stay up does the cash price jump £50m? Ashley will see that as a worthwhile risk and I'd say there are currently 3/4 teams that are more likely to be relegated than us.

I dunno how to feel on price. If we'd stayed up with Rafa 2 seasons ago with some of the player assets we had, reckon 300m should have been the starting postion. But 250m now still feels low for our potential and if we were comfortable mid table reckon they'd have pushed it.... summer window really fcuked us.