Shays Given Tim Flowers

He hardly covered himself in glory in 2010.

There was a real hatchet job on him in the Sunday Times this weekend.

Barry Fry :lol: Didn't have something stupid like 50 players on his books at Birmingham...totally bent character like. Think he once bought a player from Ron Atkinson for a crate of pink champagne.

Barry Fry :lol:

It should be this way, you are absolutely right. It won't be in the eyes of many, it'll be a 'redemptive' move I fear. The positive is that the fans are still capable of causing some sort of reaction from Ashley. Obviously that needs to be qualified. If that's the reason. Might easily just be that he didn't get enough money for Cabaye. :lol: Fuck me at this actually being plausible. Wow.

It should be this way, you are absolutely right. It won't be in the eyes of many, it'll be a 'redemptive' move I fear. The positive is that the fans are still capable of causing some sort of reaction from Ashley. Obviously that needs to be qualified.

The club can gain no credit for this. Ludicrous that he was in a job, a blemish on our club. Get to fuck Joe.

Probably. A better and more difficult question is, has he ever made a strong tackle? Has he ever showed real determination? Has he ever RAN back when caught out of position instead of jogging back? Of course he has.

Yes.

I'm not ruling it out but you are using the Kinnear said it so it's true logic here.

What do you hope will happen after that? Appoint a nice man who plays lovely football ? Win the lottery. Find a fiver in your jeans pocket.

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think he'd benefit from some time out. Needs to realise he's not been good enough.

Looks like he can have a role as impact sub for the rest of the season.

He is a brilliant and natural footballer. He is in poor form and his head doesn't seem to be in it at the moment at all. Don't know what's been going on with him and you can only trade off potential for a while. Will be a missed opportunity for the club if we can't make him work here.

Taking it at it's highest, those happy with the squad cannot ignore the lack of recruits we have made over the last two windows. It's indicative of a total absence of ambition.

It really does seem at times that there are about 3 people working at the club.

They've been better than us for bloody ages.

Yeah but what if a bunch of unsubstantiated conjecture could portray those running the club in a more positive light?

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Of course Ian is so nice he'd have Cropper in the driving seat.

13 Yanga-Mbiwa 15 Gosling 19 Haidara 21 Elliot 23 Sh Ameobi 36 Dummett 43 Armstrong Good squad!!

Grief is a powerful aphrodisiac.

Often waiting 2/3 windows for a replacement to arrive is infuriating for a fan. Waiting for the best deal possible, we could have signed Debuchy for 8 in the summer, wait a few of months then sign for 6 instead. That's how Ashley will always look it, is that good or bad? Opinion would differ between fans. Also, important point alert, as a fan I would love make more, more expensive and more frequent signings but I don't except Mike Ashley to share my opinion. Obviously if fans were in charge of signings their priorities would be very different. You're too bloody nice.

Aye, right because obviously we would be looking at players who aren't good enough. No point bringing Obertan in for £3m.