geordiesteve710

If anyone's short on time, allow me to summarise: "Midfielder for sale!!" ... and 2015's running excuse is sorted.

Sound's f***ing confusing: Dafuq? So it's saying effectively the 'repechage'/second chance tournament will be played before the actual qualifiers?!? Don't really get the 'divisions' malarkey either, just seems a way to needlessly make football more complicated than it needs to be. Probably just a way to get more guaranteed fixtures between the 'top' nations in the top division to appeal to sponsors and TV companies. Can see it getting worse than tedious after a while- the same teams playing each other if not in the 'top division group stage' then in the semi's/final every 2 years. Not of course factoring in the actual Euro's tournament itself- which is further devalued by this crap btw- and the prospect of top European teams coming up against each other at the world cup which often happens. At least FIFA has a logic behind it's modus operandi- screw as much cash as possible out of everyone for their own personal gain- that everyone can understand. This lot (UEFA) just seem to pull random words on bits of paper out of a hat to come up with their initiatives. 'Week...of...football', 'League ...of...Nations.' Just stop fucking with football man.

Well, no-one has said it didn't, and we all know how much the club love to release statements whenever there's a hint of mistruth. At very best, TheGuv has put a wildly inaccurate account of the conversation out there for the evil agenda he obviously holds, and Elliott doesn't even care enough to dispute it or put the record straight. Whatever sand you want to put your head in really. For me, everytime I see him let a soft as s*** goal in down the centre of his goal I just can't get away from the idea that he thinks he's only playing for Newcastle and it's not important. I know that's a bit unfair, but he's let the suggestion get out there and I can't shift it. Eh I'm not sure if I read the same thing- is there a link? What I read said he thought we should be a top 8/9 team... Which pretty much is what we should be surely with this lack of investment , surely he was being a realist... Do you have a link to the bit that you mean? "His argument was that the Newcastle fans think they deserve to be in the Champions League by rights and we need to know our level. I disagreed. ‘Where should we be then?’ he asked. I replied that just a bit of fight, belief and trying to play games with attacking intent could secure a higher PL finish than we’ll ever achieve with cowardly football and tactics. ‘Na’, he says. ‘8th or 9th is our level." (copied and pasted, so for the record I have correctly used quotation marks this time!) In isolation I wouldn't disagree that 8th or 9th is our level with this squad. However, to paraphrase Chris Rock It's the context in which it is said which is important. The context being that this is on the back of an appalling run of form which has seen us plummet from a very positive position of 5th to around 10th by getting beat lots to nil every week. The context that the person saying this is a professional footballer in the team, who it seems has decided to use an insulting old-hat cliche about fans expectations to absolve himself and his horrible manager of any responsibility and imply that such a run of results is fine because it's only Newcastle. I'd expect a player of the club to want do do as well as possible, finish as high as they can etc. That's why I find it hard to stomach. By all means feel free to go to the match singing 'Rob Elliotts black and white army', but I won't be joining in.

Yep. Because it happened. Although the quotations marks from a previous post definitely weren't said Sorry, for legal reasons I really need to stress that I was paraphrasing the point that I took from that part of the article, and maybe using a little bit of stroppy poetic licence for effect. I was never a big fan of the Harvard referencing system, in case you hadn't guessed!!!

Well, no-one has said it didn't, and we all know how much the club love to release statements whenever there's a hint of mistruth. At very best, TheGuv has put a wildly inaccurate account of the conversation out there for the evil agenda he obviously holds, and Elliott doesn't even care enough to dispute it or put the record straight. Whatever sand you want to put your head in really. For me, everytime I see him let a soft as shit goal in down the centre of his goal I just can't get away from the idea that he thinks he's only playing for Newcastle and it's not important. I know that's a bit unfair, but he's let the suggestion get out there and I can't shift it.

I don't actually have too much hate for most of our players, even the likes of Gouff I don't think he's to blame for his current ineptitude. Steven Taylor is a bit 'funny' (not of the haha variety) and Colback seems to be a bit of a cunt. This lad though- fucking hell, I absolutely despise Rob Elliott. I really don't get how anyone can reconcile themselves with 'getting behind' a bloke who earlier this very year said to all intents and purposes "It doesn't matter if we play shit, it's only Newcastle United" whilst getting thousands of pounds a week for the privilege. I don't have much in the way of expectations when it comes to the team or club in general but bloody hell man we deserve and should demand better than that. How low would your self esteem have to get for you to be happy to brush that under the carpet and 'get behind' him.

Are we sure the '#pride tm' awards don't exclude people who are obviously straight, thus leaving Ryder as the only man standing? Not trying to be homophobic, just wondered if that had narrowed it down. Seems odd for Lee Ryder to win anything

Still find it hard to stomach a goalkeeper winning ballon d'or but I see where you're coming from. However, got to be Ronaldo surely. Yet again he's just been ridiculous. Why is that, out of interest? No-one seemed to argue with cannavaro in 2006, and I'd say a keeper as dominant in his position as Neuer, and capable of making outrageously spectacular saves is just as worthy and also probably more value in entertainment terms (if that's your criteria) than a centre back defending well and demonstrating extreme leadership skills. Not kicking off or owt, just wondering

They are owned by different people/organisations. ... From different countries!!!

Fuck my life what is all that about. Only got halfway through due to stabbing pains in the eyeballs, but to sum up: if a club wins trophies its fans will be happier with the way it operates than if they don't win trophies. No shit Sherlock

If I understand correctly, until Rangers get back into Europe and improve their co-efficient we would go in at their expense regardless of who qualified for which competition, as due to being English and 2012-13 we have a higher co-efficient. By that time Ashley will be long gone I'd imagine.

This. Poyet's game plan and style of football is obviously particularly well-suited and effective against a team set up to play with Pardews conservatism. Not to mention the players will have John b****** Carver in their faces all week before the game giving it the big one and generally filling them full of nerves. We'll tire ourselves out chasing after the ball for long periods again before tiring and meekly fading away the longer the game goes on.

Injurying ffs

It was the bit in bold about squad depth that I was really on about. Not because I particularly disagree-although another centre back wouldn't hurt- but because I can see a mile off he's going to contradict himself as soon as a convenient excuse to mask a shit performance is needed.

Shameless. Can we bookmark the fuck out of this please. Cause when this run ends and we're getting beat every week, that'll be the first thing he starts bleating on about. Well, unless the Notting Hill Carnival is on or there's a big science conference at the university.

Tbf, if you really want the s*** flags that much, they can stay as far as I'm concerned!!!

http://www.readytogo.net/smb/threads/ryan-taylor.996510/ Respected. Throughout. Football.

Respected throughout football marra. Respected. Throughout. Football.

Don't have to play a qualifier when you finish in the top 3

If we get to the final, do you think either Pardew or Ashley will decide enough is enough, they've laid the 'Can't be bothered with cups' criticism to bed, and that throwing the cup, thus avoiding Europe, would make survival easier for next season? Personally wouldn't put it past them.

Does winning the league cup now preclude us from winning anything in 10 years, or could it be a springboard onto better things? If the scenario is to win now then nothing after for 10 years, I think I'd rather wait. If up in the air, I'd take it now and hope Pardew turns out to somehow be the next Alex Ferguson (I know I know).

Maybe I'm really missing something very obvious, but what's the fucking point? People use Wonga cos they're either too impatient to wait a week til payday to get something or they're in the shit financially. They're not going to use Wonga cos Steven Taylor sez ther propa mint. Be interesting to see if any other papers run anything remotely similar, and if so what the player says/does to promote Wonga exactly. And as for Bird, was probably a shit player he couldn't be arsed interviewing so thought he'd run with the 'morality' angle. Iirc the Sun gets dibs on most of the good stuff from the club, media-wise.