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Why would it make me feel better? What an odd thing to say. And players not being arsed/manager performing poorly doesn't equate to the club not being arsed with it. That's a relatively recent phenomenon*. * 2010 I'll give you, difference is we were attempting to actually achieve something in the league that season, win it, and the potential costs of not getting promoted meant it kinda made sense to most. Even then if it wasn't for a laughably slanted refereeing performance we'd have potentially not lost to West Brom.

Feel free to renew your hatred by recalling what a s**** football manager he was, as opposed to focusing on the politics of his role at the club under Ashley. If the latter is causing you to doubt his complicity in systematically destroying the entity of the football club - just remember the stuff about refusing to play Ben Arfa or playing Cisse on the wing or losing to the Mackems for times in a row or this or that or this or that or this or that. He was terrible in the dugout before you even begin to question whether or not he was in cahoots with the club's mantra. This. I'm relatively neutral regarding Pardew now- he's f***ed off and is someone else's problem now. BUT, his shadow still lingers large over the club. Where do people think "you can't compete in the cups without risking relegation" originally came from? Especially given that it first reared it's head during 13/14, after a summer where Ashley pulled Pardew in to explain why the league form had been so s*** and he had to find some way to cover his arse. Unfortunately the useless f***ers at the top not only believed him but took it word for word literally. IN his first season we where out the FA Cup in the 3rd round to Morecombe was it? IN the 5th season 3rd or 4th to Brighton. You may have noticed during 13/14 but I don't think we've had a decent run in any competition under Ashley. It was during 13/14 when the club officially acknowledged a lack of interest in the cups to a fans forum and outlined their ludicrous "research" into teams competing in cups and getting relegated. Officially. But it's clear the policy has been long-running and pre-dates that season. Not necessarily. The defeat to Stevenage and first defeat to Brighton were down to incompetence on the side of the manager and to a certain extent players. We played the best available team at Brighton but got beat by a better team on the day, and were so determined to turn the Stevenage game around that Pardew (laughably) brought on Tiote to save the day when he had originally left him out to save him for the derby. Tbf we've always dithered and fucked about with the league cup team which has been one of my biggest frustrations with NUFC and in fairness that does pre-date Pardew and if we're honest it pre-dates Ashley too. But again though it's got worse and was never as bad as playing virtual reserve teams at Man City and in the quarter final (!!!) like this season.

Feel free to renew your hatred by recalling what a s**** football manager he was, as opposed to focusing on the politics of his role at the club under Ashley. If the latter is causing you to doubt his complicity in systematically destroying the entity of the football club - just remember the stuff about refusing to play Ben Arfa or playing Cisse on the wing or losing to the Mackems for times in a row or this or that or this or that or this or that. He was terrible in the dugout before you even begin to question whether or not he was in cahoots with the club's mantra. This. I'm relatively neutral regarding Pardew now- he's f***ed off and is someone else's problem now. BUT, his shadow still lingers large over the club. Where do people think "you can't compete in the cups without risking relegation" originally came from? Especially given that it first reared it's head during 13/14, after a summer where Ashley pulled Pardew in to explain why the league form had been so s*** and he had to find some way to cover his arse. Unfortunately the useless f***ers at the top not only believed him but took it word for word literally. IN his first season we where out the FA Cup in the 3rd round to Morecombe was it? IN the 5th season 3rd or 4th to Brighton. You may have noticed during 13/14 but I don't think we've had a decent run in any competition under Ashley. It was during 13/14 when the club officially acknowledged a lack of interest in the cups to a fans forum and outlined their ludicrous "research" into teams competing in cups and getting relegated.

Feel free to renew your hatred by recalling what a s**** football manager he was, as opposed to focusing on the politics of his role at the club under Ashley. If the latter is causing you to doubt his complicity in systematically destroying the entity of the football club - just remember the stuff about refusing to play Ben Arfa or playing Cisse on the wing or losing to the Mackems for times in a row or this or that or this or that or this or that. He was terrible in the dugout before you even begin to question whether or not he was in cahoots with the club's mantra. This. I'm relatively neutral regarding Pardew now- he's fucked off and is someone else's problem now. BUT, his shadow still lingers large over the club. Where do people think "you can't compete in the cups without risking relegation" originally came from? Especially given that it first reared it's head during 13/14, after a summer where Ashley pulled Pardew in to explain why the league form had been so shit and he had to find some way to cover his arse. Unfortunately the useless fuckers at the top not only believed him but took it word for word literally.

That has given my ears aids. Thanks for that.

When hell freezes over, I'd imagine

Spent the first half driving back from looking at wedding venues listening to it fully intending to watch 2nd half now I'm actively avoiding it. All in all a fucking shitty waste of a Saturday off work Gonna try to recoup some enjoyment, off to a couple nice beer serving, non-football pubs then for a curry methinks.

Done out of a nice double on the horses today by some f***ing jumped up upstart of a 50/1 shot coming in. Itsasting?!? Too f***ing right it was. To the glue factory with you.

Love this player. He has improved a lot this season and there's more to come. It'd be great to secure him on a new contract. Would be like a new signing tbh...

What happened to sunderland the humble, never criticising, always backing the team, accepting of their place in football's pecking order not like us horrible nasty mags up the road with our delusions and selfish desire to see our team improve?? Has no-one remembered to give them a patronising tickle on the belly this month? That RTF crown slips any further it'll be past their kneecaps.

Worst if a very bad bunch yesterday, but generally been outstanding this season. Hope he was nice to Carver and licked his arse properly after the game, or we'll be seeing Ryan Taylor rushed back into the starting line up on Wednesday.

Not the lad's biggest fan by any stretch of the imagination but appalling decision to take him off and leave Sissoko/ameobi on today. At least he was fucking putting the effort in and at least he was trying to make things happen unlike that pair of shirkers.

Never thought I'd feel broken, and not quite there but "not selling sissoko is like a new signing" has pushed me close. on so many levels

Absolute shite from both teams. Best league in the world lol.

Surely they wouldn't give him the job permanently after that?!?

Even by my very high standards in this field, today is a spectacular failure. McCoy, legend!!

http://www1.pictures.zimbio.com/gi/John+Carver+Cardiff+City+v+Newcastle+United+ymrUDUoOZa4l.jpg Carver learnt from Bobby Robson?? That's odd, don't recall him mentioning it lately...

Newcastle-Sunderland on a Friday night and you don't think half the crowd would turn up mortal? Most of the Gallowgate was noticeably pissed for Cardiff City that time. I do like the idea of it though, was a good atmosphere at the Cardiff game and with the current state of affairs it would mean not having Saturday ruined by football which is also a bonus.

Genuinely staggering that. If anyone ever doubts that the regime have a presence in social media, I'd point them in the direction of that. Even a mackem wouldn't bother with defending Ashley that passionately. The line about 'regularly getting to cup quarter-finals.' Like you said- fuck me man.

This is going to go very wrong very spectacularly isn't it. Talk about creating a divided dressing room.

Never gonna fit in with the club culture with an attitude like that. Probably best to get shot, dressing room harmony, blah blah etc.

True. For most normal clubs that wouldn't factor in because they'd plan to be paying someone to take his place in the squad anyway. For our board that might not be such an issue.

This is ridiculous really. Now I wouldn't argue that Santon was a great but a decent enough footballer who could have been of use to us over the next few months when other members of the back four inevitably get injured. And he's going for 4m euros?!? Sorry, the promise of 4m euros in a few months time. Which given the way that currency is sliding in value will be worth less and less to us by the day. What is that amount of money going to actually achieve for anyone? It's like the principle of the last-minute sale is now the most important thing, as opposed to the actual amount derived from the sale. The Carroll sale has been likened on here before to a drug "hit" which turned Ashley into a sale junkie and he's been chasing that high ever since. To continue the analogy if that was pure high grade colombian finest, we're now actively forcing through a deal knowing full well half the contents of the bag in front of us is Persil but taking it anyway as it's the best on offer.

Absolutely ridiculous really. Even more ridiculous that we won't be trying to get him on loan or anything as everyone in the club seems to think we're better off with Obertan/Gouff.

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