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Think of it like Tino and trips, Schars competition/ next in line.

We are nabbing talent from some real good academies it’s really good to see.

I’d be on board with that, personally I don’t see a couple of seasons playing elsewhere an issue at all. It’s a temporary measure and short term pain for long term gain. We will have to wait and see what they decide, I hope whatever we do it’s extensive we should be looking towards the next 100 years and not back at the prior.

Yeah spurs stadium doesn’t have a retractable pitch right? So it would make sense they are limited to summer (your weather point is also valid). Will be interesting if we do the same re the concourse but it doesn’t fix the other constraints outlined re listed buildings etc.

Concerts are difficult to do mid season due to the damage which would happen to the pitch (if it’s revenue you wanted to court you would want a retractable pitch). in order to extend the concourse would you have to knock the entire stand and rebuild it? I don’t think Liverpool are particularly relevant personally if you want to use the stadium to generate additional income as Anfield is obviously a football stadium which has been expended several times but not designed with other events in mind.

Fingers crossed, I do wonder which direction we go with this.

Spurs im sure did, I know they had Beyoncé beating out Wembley they have the nfl. Liverpool aren’t relevant to this as they also have an old stadium. Both a refurb and an expansion can only achieve so much. As others have said no refurb will give you more concourse space, no extension will change leazes terrace etc.

You could but not many due to the amount of set up time needed etc. your only real window to do so would be the summer etc. your still heavily limited on the upside just to the inherent restrictions in place.

Was thinking the same, given the opposition and its lack of repute sales might be slow for this.

Yeah probably but it would run foul of related party transaction rules because it makes no commercial sense for the sponsor to renegotiate such an agreement upwards.

Next time round we will definitely be asking more and have metrics to back it up

If we have a contract with Sela which we do how do you propose we break it?

Listened to the athletic podcast about us and it was quite surprising tbh. Waugh and Ornstein between them were very surface level. No discussion on how ridiculous the rules are, we were slammed for our treatment of Minteh and Ornstein was parroting the north London line of well maybe we should check the communication of clubs involved in these deals it’s really alarming to me that the football media are happy to parrot this stuff, monitor clubs communication ffs can you even imagine? Also Waugh talking and parroting about cashflow? I don’t think that’s an issue for us so please don’t parrot it. We are restricted due to rules which make no sense and diminish the sporting integrity of the league that is the only reason. On a separate un related note, the FT yesterday said he the football regulator bill will be passed by labour pretty quickly so it will be interested if that impacts things.

Nice and Fiorentina iirc.

Various reports indicating the deal was agreed on Friday aka when we had our FFP issues. The only way they paid us a decent amount was if it was after the cut off. lesson learnt hopefully.

Given Man United low ball offers previously I can’t see it being very much at all. Why would they move a lot knowing we had FFP issues.

[x] doubt.

No thanks. I’m generally against signing former Man United players (unless pinched from the academy). He will be on a canny wedge anarl. Paying a premium for tinos back up doesn’t make much sense.

I think another way to frame this discussion can anyone name a club in the premier league who attained consistent success (let’s set the bar low and say European qualification for say 5 out of 10 possible years) without having top 6 revenue? The point we are trying to illustrate is that it will be extremely difficult to challenge on a consistent basis and it will be a challenge to bridge the gap financial which would give us the best chance.

Toney is free this summer or next?

It is unfortunately it seems to face widespread opposition, any notion of moving is shot down.

Exactly with related party transaction rules in place us being owner by PIF is heavily negated. What’s more as far as I’m aware the new squad cost rules have no provision for owner investment (it’s currently what? 33m per year? From a cursory glance it appears at minimum we are 200m per annum behind the smallest of the so so called big 6, and my question is where is that 200m per annum coming from? My guess would be smaller upticks in commercial revenue plus player sales. Our growth path will have to be organic due to the rules and this is extremely difficult as it will be extremely tough to be selling players whilst trying to become even more competitive. If someone has an alternative view I’d love to hear it. in addition this is all based upon those above us not growing, if they do we need to find more. To close the gap we have to outgrow them a ridiculously tough ask.

More. We need more.

They aren’t thick at all. They obviously lack some sense and experience but ultimately they are haphazardly building a high quality squad full of young talent. Some will work out some won’t but that’s the nature of football. the biggest risk they have is they are all youth no experience which will cause issues

I don’t think so. I think we would need the clause value at least. He’s got a long contract and they have form for paying out clauses.