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Whilst I don’t think anyone could read that and suggest you’re not ‘deserving’ (for want want of a more appropriate word) of getting back what you had, at least in some capacity, the issue is going to be where do they draw the line? There’ll be similar stories from people who wrapped in after the KK fiasco, the latter stages of Pardew, etc. Even if it were limited to those who walked away when Rafa went, I’m not sure there’d be enough ST’s available to cover everyone wanting to come back. It’s a sad situation, entirely of Mike Ashley’s making, and I hope they can come up with something for people like yourself, sadly I just can’t see it.

For what it’s worth, I backed us at Evens to stay up when the takeover happened. Cash Out is currently at 99.36%….

Might be if they just give them away seeing they can’t sell them

Not sure that’s right like cos there was nearly 2500 available when they first went on sale on the ticket portal (unless we were given 3300?) In that update the Trust put out yesterday they said the club said the allocation for players/staff/corporate was still 10%. Not sure about that like ??‍♂️

That’s only for away tickets though. So the home club is still only getting £30. You’re right though, why do we need to stick an extra quid on? It’s not just to cover postage either as it’s per ticket, even if they all arrive together.

Yep, like I said, often individual circumstances that have prevented people from going in the past, rather than just ‘they didn’t go cos we were shit’. But how do you quantify any of that into some meaningful system? You can’t unfortunately.

What was the original price? How did they get around charging more (assuming it was more)?

It’s illegal to re-sell football tickets above face value in this country. Obviously not to say it doesn’t happen, and if you have enough money you can nearly always find one, but it’s not done openly.

That’s an argument that’s never got a definitive answer though, so I’ll swerve that one ?

Giving points for home cup games is probably fair enough. Although can’t see it having any great impact. Suppose it does give folk a foot on the points ladder but if you’re only looking at 2/3 a season (granted will be more if and when we’re back in Europe) 40/50 points for an away ticket is still going to feel a million miles away.

Tbh, it’s only a problem now demand is high again. Previous to this season you were probably looking at ~50% of away games going to Members sale, or at least to zero points. If you’ve had a ST over the recent past (and didn’t give it up) there’s been plenty of opportunities to build up points. Having said that, it’s never that straight forward, and everyone has their own individual circumstances that could justifiably mean they feel ‘unlucky’ to be missing out going forward.

Apparently so, although someone told me there’s only 80-90 fans left with an ‘Away ST’

I think if they went down the ‘10% ballot’ route, they’d probably have to open it up to all ST holders on less points than whatever the original 90% sold out at. So if 90% of tickets sell out at 50 points, everyone on less than 50 points can enter the ballot.

I do agree with that actually. Although I use it myself as a ST holder, I don’t think it’s particularly fair tbh.

If it does get to a point where literally no game ever goes down to 0 points, then I would agree something (no idea what) would need to be done, as you can’t have kids never getting the chance to go to away games (unless buying off someone else). I will say though that although demand is going crazy and will only continue to go up, there will come a point where it plateaus. For example, if we’re away at Madrid in the CL on a Wednesday, then got Norwich away on the Sunday, what would demand for Norwich be like?

Not sure as the away club doesn’t receive any revenue (in the league) from away ticket sales, even though they actually administer the selling of them. Imagine our fans might be the last set of away fans at Chelsea though (unless tickets for a later game have already been sold)

You only need to look at other clubs various different ‘points’ systems to see no one system is anywhere close to perfect. However you do it there’s always ways certain people can ‘game’ it slightly to put themselves in a better position. If they were to change/alter it in some way, I guarantee within a season you would have exactly the same number of complaints, just of a slightly different nature.

You can’t tell. There might yet be one the ‘away’ blocks that goes on sale (so roughly another 500)

Demand is on it’s way back towards peak-Keegan days. Don’t even think Wolves will make general sale, that generally only ever happens with games against the mackems, Man Utd or Liverpool (unless there’s particularly attractive circumstances around another game). Wolves is effectively a run-of-the-mill league game live on TV (maybe there’s a ‘Friday night’ novelty factor) and it’s going to be sold out a month in advance.

I think they said he’s been in touch to give it back

Looked like he’d done his hammy when he went off yesterday. Was grabbing at it and signalled to the bench that he needed to come off. Suppose it could have been cramp but didn’t look like it.

Expect he’ll get his start on Thursday if Willock is injured

Our last game in March is a week on Thursday, so obviously neither will be back by then.

Looked like Willock damaged his hamstring yesterday so would be surprised if he started. Bruno time….

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