Shadow Puppets

Again, not at NUFC. But I guess there's no reason Palace can't be different on that front.

Fair enough. Not at NUFC (it's 2 hours before here), but perhaps at other clubs.

Why would any player be at Selhurst Park yet?

Wasn't the goal vs Bournemouth from the RW like?

I understand that, but why do you feel the need to beat Eddie with that stick? Apart from venting for the sake of venting.

That's not what I'm referring to. I'm referring to whether it's a success or not to keep Bruno, Isak, and Gordon etc together. And of course, that, in isolation IS a success.

I don't understand your viewpoint there at all. Eddie saying that it's a success that we've kept the squad together is 100% factually true, isn't it? Weren't we all worried a few months ago that Bruno, Isak and Gordon could be gone? So from that point of view it HAS been a success. Obviously from an incoming POV it hasn't as yet, but that's not what he's saying there is it.

Would you not say it's a success?

As he has been for about 2.5 weeks.

As I said yesterday, everything I’ve heard from behind the scenes suggest that Eddie and Mitchell’s relationship is good… it’s good to hear Eddie publicly saying that today, and saying that the backing from above has been good.

Not convinced being cup tied would make any particular difference to the deal to be honest. We’ll be thinking long term, not just about a potential 5 games missed.

I never said that at all like. That’s been fabricated from the snippet of info I shared from an agent that said we had financial reasons to get the deal done before the start of the season, and said it had something to do with “a Chelsea clause”. No idea on details further than that.

Feel like most clubs (including us) say this every year.

Done

That part isn’t a problem, don’t worry.

Eh?

The only one who will start with everyone fit is Murphy.

I know some of the chatter in this thread is tongue in cheek, but my god some of it is absolutely ridiculous and not based in any form of reality. Why are some of you so eager to essentially craft a destabilising narrative, imagining huge rifts between players and managers and the board. Do you not remember what THAT version of NUFC was like, years ago? The transfer window has been frustrating, I get that, but there’s also some massively overblown / pathetic opinions on some of our own players. Murphy, Miggy, Burn, Krath etc might not be world beaters, but they’ve all played a significant part in helping to turn this club around. I have no issue whatsoever with any of them remaining squad players. There is zero evidence of anything “wrong” behind the scenes between Howe and Mitchell (as I said yesterday, everything certainly seems to be pulling in the same direction behind the scenes). We all want a couple of shiny new players, I get that, but we have to remember that we have a very talented squad of players here already, one which can only be stronger than last season (without the injuries and with Tonali returning). One or two good players would be welcome, of course. I genuinely think some people just love to be miserable and find issue where there isn’t necessarily one. It must be exhausting to have that mindset. Anyway, I still think this whole debate will be irrelevant in 4 days time anyway, because I believe we’ll make at least one significant signing, but my god this place can be depressing.

Gordon’s going nowhere.

Precisely

Makes a lot of sense to get an actually capable number 2. We all know the Forest lad was a PSR favour signing… he’ll head out on loan.

Understand your frustration re: Barnes, but Howe has repeatedly said that Willock isn’t quite ready to be starting. They’re purposefully taking it easy with him.

My first feeling yesterday was, can Willock not play RW? He has pretty much all the attributes to, and would give him more opportunities for goals. 🤷‍♂️

That remains to be seen really. Historically loans tend to happen in the final week, so we’ll see. Anyway, I don’t disagree that the window has been poor, but there’s still a chance they can salvage it with Guehi or Guehi + another.

It’s not rocket science. We’re not looking for squad players for £10m-15m (and I’d argue that, no, you wouldn’t get better players than those you mentioned for that money). We’re looking for players who can significantly improve the starting 11. They cost £50m+ in most cases. And there’s not many in that bracket who could improve our first 11 AND cost the right amount of money AND not have better options with European football etc.