Shadow Puppets

Maybe that's what it is?! He was so shit at the start, I then had a fixed opinion on him and I was overly-critical and never changed my stance when he came back in. chelsea & man city i think were the games, looked so badly off the pace it was terrifying didn't play again for nearly 2 months then was class until he fucked off to the asian cup What? Our results were largely horrendous in the lead up to him going away (as they were for a few weeks after as well).

we're really not like doesn't necessarily mean that everything is shelvey's fault or whatever just that once ki came in things clicked for the team as a whole largely due to the way he played it out per loki's post...from that point on shelvey was done under rafa imo especially as we had 2 cb's that could play the hollywood balls shelvey was doing anyways we went from have 1 tactic/threat - shelvey direct to the strikers from deep - to still having that option but also being able to play through the middle and move the whole team up, bringing the full backs into play higher up the pitch etc. not sure what you were watching Not entirely sure how that’s Shelvey’s fault like. Seems more of a tactical fault to me.

I think people are drastically rewriting history, or at least placing far too much importance on Ki being the turning point. Yes our play could be one dimensional when Shelvey was in the team, but I’m not entirely sure if that’s Shelvey fault. The team was crying out for Shelvey’s vision / passing ability prior to Almiron arriving. Would have perhaps been nice too see him in the team alongside Ki.

So why did we start winning last season after Shelvey was dropped? We started winning last season when Almiron arrived.

Ki is the definition of a nothing player like. Genuinely can't tell you anything he's particularly good at. Shelvey, on the other, has better vision than most, and we all know how good his passing can be. Yes, he's not much of a grafter, but what he brings to the table is far more important in my opinion. Shelvey's lack of involvement was always a frustration of mine with Rafa. One of my few frustrations with him.

What reports?

I like Shelvey, like. Good player.

If I’m being at all fair to the guy, he is speaking to a room full of Chinese journalists.

Yes You do surprise me. Still going obviously. As long as you're happy. Aye I'm fuming and I usually don't even watch the games anymore. No I’m not still going. Packed it in this summer. But I really did enjoy having Rafa around, despite the owner. Now he’s gone though...

Yes

And in fairness, there weren’t many complaints at the time about Roeder considering how well he did as caretaker.

For fucks sake...how many times. It wasn’t Redding that claimed that at all.

In my opinion it has to be completed in the next week or two or forget it Completed in the next week or 2?. So if it takes another 14 days that then means we have 23 days to appoint a manager a coaching team then manager assess his squad get to know them and then analyse what is needed to bring in No f***ing chance you can do that in just over 3 weeks it's just not possible. The takeover bullshit is another Ruse to avoid spending money on a decent manager and players Perez leaving is biggest hint that no takeover was ever intended as why would they agree a price then seller sells one of your big assets before sale is completed It's like agreeing to buy a car agreeing a price then seller saying I've just sold the wheels They had no choice on Perez man his release clause was activated ...if you believe them. Yeah I do but I'm not into conspiracy theories like some It’s not a conspiracy theory... just strange that it’s only the nufc side that are mentioning any clauses. Leicester just say undisclosed. I trust them at all.

In my opinion it has to be completed in the next week or two or forget it Completed in the next week or 2?. So if it takes another 14 days that then means we have 23 days to appoint a manager a coaching team then manager assess his squad get to know them and then analyse what is needed to bring in No f***ing chance you can do that in just over 3 weeks it's just not possible. The takeover bullshit is another Ruse to avoid spending money on a decent manager and players Perez leaving is biggest hint that no takeover was ever intended as why would they agree a price then seller sells one of your big assets before sale is completed It's like agreeing to buy a car agreeing a price then seller saying I've just sold the wheels They had no choice on Perez man his release clause was activated ...if you believe them.

It was never a penalty like. The tiniest bit of brushed contact. Ridiculous decision. Offside was right though.

Well that was shite.

To be fair that's pretty funny!

I’m as disappointed as the next guy that Rafa has gone, not necessarily for footballing reasons, but because of the lack of ambition and class that it shows yet again. From a footballing point of view I will miss his ability to organise the defensive shape of our team, and how to grind out a result. In truth I won’t miss the lack of attacking intent (that was at least evident until Almiron arrived). Overall he was an outstanding manager for us and represented the club better than anyone since Bobby. Really disappointing.

No he didn’t. He claimed that the lawyers account was legit.

Leave GE alone like...he’s not doing any harm. At least he’s contributing something, whether you find it interesting or not.

Well something is clearly happening. It would have been publicly rubbished by us if not. Simple as that really. There’s obviously a reason that we don’t want to comment yet.

The article above?

As always it looks horrendous on fans, but no doubt it’ll look canny on the players once you’re used to it.

That was epic! Potentially even more epic than last night. They only had 45 mins to turn it round. Absolutely incredible. I have a small soft spot for Spurs so would be happy for them to win it. But to be honest both Spurs and Liverpool have been great all year so they both thoroughly deserve it.

This I pointed out to a copper at half time...he just said there was too many of them.felt a bit sorry(sort of) for the ones being dragged out of the Leazes end when these t***s were left alone ..why? Money/corporate supporters - pure and simple. Different rules! Give over! They weren’t treat differently because of money. They were treat differently because there was about 300 in a block. What exactly are the police to do about that?