Wolfcastle

I'm the same, by the same token I root for something different, fresh, something with a vibe, to get promoted. I'd have taken any of the play-offs teams over what we got automatically.

Have Watford and Norwich contributed anything this season, apart from yellowness?

The 93/94 defence conceded 17 goals all season in 46games in Serie A and Champions League, 31 clean sheets, 21 in the league by not mentioning them they've been underrrated technically So shout out to the collective unit of Panucci, Baresi, Costacurta, Maldini Cafu was better than Panucci but Nesta and Stam weren't as good as Baresi and Costacurta imho

"our biggest ever display is planned against Arsenal" intriguing and tantalising.

And yet that's so often how wars start. Between people with huge differences even closer in proximity than 12miles Times change, they're an interchangable yo-yo club in reality of the last 50years and perception. I mean unitl 2003 or even the takeover Man City getting relegated wasn't even newsworthy it was a regular occurance but that perception and reality has changed lately.

Maybe fun88 is why the shirt looks modelled on the one we had in 1988, which was not fun at all. Fvck88 would be more apt.

Jose, it is your destiny

Underrated and overrated Overrated at the time - he wasn't Maradona, the step over and shift was a bit Walters/Robben/Beagrie repetative and the slightest thing seemed raved about. Underrated in the annals of time when you look back, feels almost forgotten now the original Ronaldo

Just so we unerstand each other and not having a go cos you've been alright but feel I bit slighted by the implication so - I've posted on this thread a few times but can't remember the last time I watched one of your games, think the last time I seen you on TV at all was Burton a few years ago for giggles and wouldn't recognise one of your players if they knocked on my door. So 'seem' is spot on.

Yeah 87-90

Seth Johnson scammed a career

Mark Stein Little goblin c**t was also the propent of my first dive.

Yeah, no need to be morbid about missing out on a hearty laugh. When they were last in the championship that was a cracking laugh. My favourite one was their fawning over Coleman on the radio phone-in he was in for, because they'd got a win and a draw in his first two games or something. Not sure he won another game. But they know the next Brian Clough when they see it.

Beresford made a point in some documentary an example of the change that you used to have 15k in the stadium 40' before kick-off. Players would get clapped on and off for their warm ups. All-seater had to be the main cause of that going, no need to get in early On my first sight of the new Leazes people were drinking and looking out to Leazes Park. Expectations is key too though. You felt the team didn't need your support at times. Yet Sheffield Wed in 97/98 was one of the best atmos I've been in, I felt, probably because of the exact opposite, without Shearer and others and after getting battered by Juventus the week before. In retrospect they're probably a lot better than people remember having a watched a few non-descript games back recently and the atmo rocking, but 92/93 93/94 were exceptional, nationally.

Brian Wade. 4 goal debut against us for Brighton, 6 goals that season in all, 9 in his league career, which only lasted about 20games.

I wonder who will make a bigger deal about getting to Wembley for a 3rd division play-off, Wycombe or Sunderland. Bet its not the one logic and self-professed standing would suggest.

Can't see them not going through. Though after their hubristic attitudes its only fair that the good guys Wycombe prevail overall if you ask me

Stoykovic. Cos we only got the one tournament with him and he went for paid retirement in his prime to Japan. Balakov

Yes. Collymore. One of about fifty strikers we were linked with in 95 with cash to burn. Had a great season with Forest but was glad we didn't go there based on just one season - and that Liverpool paid 8.5m for him. In the end 94/95 and 95/96 were the only seasons he wasn't sh1t. Flash in the pan for me. Kennet Anderson: had a trial with us in the 2nd tier under Keegan, a girl I knew said he was 'sh1te' in a reserve match he played in, was just a bit weird getting a international from the Euro's in those days and deciding not to bother, when he fetched up in USA 94, I wondered what KK made of it.

The new Peter Beardsley - Nick Barmby

Prosinecki went to Real Madrid under a foreign player limit so had the potential but like a lot of flair players, very topical, came with problems and manager fall-outs thus. Could still see echoes of the potential in his technique at that point. Seen that doc on ESPN yonks ago, been meaning to get a copy of it for nearly as long. Most vividly remember Savicevic being interviewed mournful about the break-up because they had a great team, some Croat off camera shouts "You're a piece of s*it" and Saviceivc shouts back something like "f**k you, I f**k you in that gaping hole" Nearly threw in Jugovic and Jarni for under-rated, Some team: Suker, Boban, Boksic, Jarni, Stojkovic, Pancev, Savicevic, Jugovic, Spasic (Real Madrid), Prosenecki, Mijatovic, Mihaijlovic.

The same summer Vialli went to Juventus, was a disaster too until 94/95. Remember marvelling at the price tags. Lot of that was about the foreign players rule so they needed the best Italian players they could get and they were at a premium.

The atmosphere drop off was the same everywhere in that time frame. Leeds from probably the most intimdating place 89-92 to sterile by the mid 90s. Part all-seater stadiums, part the price paid for sanitising the game. Least we had the excuse of expectation levels. The atmosphere was incomporably worse 89-91 too, probably an all-time pre-Ashley low, but he's included that?

Harry Kewell, Darren Anderton

Speaking of underrated players