Kid Icarus

That's GNR behind him, so the one all the dog walkers go on with the little coffee van at the end of Gosforth

Imagine you set up a YouTube channel. You do it earnestly and start gainining popularity, then people start more or less bullying you, but weirdly the more they bully you and get pissed off with you, the more popular you become. You're now in a position where you can lean into the cringe and gain even more popularity while pissing off the people who hate you and have been bullying you in the process. That's basically what's happened, I think whatever opinion we might have on him playing up to it, it was inevitable given the incentive was there.

Aye, I think most 'communities' (ugh) end up like that kept unchecked, even the seemingly innocuous ones. There's a YouTube channel on it called People Ruin Everything, that looks at how each fanbase will basically keep one upping itself until it's weird, inaccessible and ruined.

Yeah definitely. The way I think of it is that when say a Sunderland fan is sound until it gets onto the subject of Sunderland or Newcastle, it's because they themselves are working with this idea of a stereotype in their minds who they're now arguing with. Look at how Neil was getting spoken to on here yesterday, with all these weirdos going on like he was someone else they have in their head. It's proper infantile That's the good thing about RTG I think, even though I don't think the people on there are like all Sunderland fans at all, it really is almost a monolith on its own where so many of them massively live up to the really funny stereotype of Sunderland fans. Looking on there now though you can see that a few of them are heading towards mental breakdowns, they're just absolutely consumed with loathing.

Luke Edwards is supposed to be a professional journalist working for a reputable media outfit, so no. Not least because he's petty as fuck and can't stand any criticism against him. Whereas this Adam P is just some lad doing YouTube videos, who probably realised at some point that his numbers were going up when people started mocking him. Don't get me wrong like, I think he's shit and embarrassing, but the people who seemingly hate him and can't stop talking about him and retweeting him are taking themselves for mugs if their intention is for him to fade away.

I think that's more a description of the problem with tribalism than something unique to them. We have plenty that are like that. Every set of supporters will have something unique about them because nothing grows in a vaccuum, but the way each trait is used as a way to think of every fan group as a monolith is something we should have thought beyond years ago tbh. Love the rivalry and stuff, but when people hold onto the bitterness and anger long term and start being totally consumed by it, it stops being funny for me.

Personally find it funnier to laugh at the people he winds up than I do to get embarrassed for him like. Mad how much the people who seemingly can't stand him are just making him more and more popular.

There are tons: Andy Cole, Zaha, Huth, Luke Shaw, Lingard when he went to West Ham, Sigurdsson, Modric. Basically any player who took time to settle and ended up being class, or a player who got a move that didn't work out, then moved away and regained form. There are loads that didn't get the renaissance at the other side and just faded away as well - Dempsey, Drinkwater, Shaun Wright-Phillips, Scott Sinclair, Jeffers.

The level of hatred on there is so unhealthy like, Jesus Christ Just absolutely filled with loathing and jealousy masked in the flimsiest moral indignation imaginable. The idea that they would walk away from Sunderland for any reason is laughable, yet that's the moral requirement they deem fitting for us. Until they deal with and accept that if the shoe was on the other foot they'd be the same, they're signing themselves up for a life of endless jealousy, anger, and frustration. Like loads on our side though, because they think of Mags as the other - as opposed to ordinary people who act in largely the same way they do, it'll never click with them.

ITT: People talking to Neil like he's the absolute worst stereotype of an Everton fan that wronged them on Twitter and coming across like needlessly arrogant tossers

Chelsea will be interesting like. They can be got at and we should have beaten them. Can see it being a match that Goodison get massively up for as well.

Was miles better than anything I've seen from you that I can remember

Pickford's like a cartoon villain who always thinks he's won this time. He's an absolute crease, the daft cunt never ever learns

Deserved for Richarlison and Pickford's shit patter

Christ it might actually happen

I could get used to this. Absolutely class

You might see sportswashing but [goes on to describe sportswashing] Edwards is a right fucking knacker, can't stand him.

There are plenty of well off people who are either apolitical or think this Tory government are a disgrace (Neville just off the top of my head, and way beyond that Fergie, Shankly, Busby, Clough, Nevin, Southall, Mick McCarthy and Peter Reid were/are socialists) That doesn't mean they're saints or owt, but Lampard has been actively involved in politics - meeting and loving David Cameron, being touted for the Kensington seat a few years ago, and apparently having political ambitions as a Tory. Much like Sol Campbell and Karl Henry, that singles him out as going above and beyond in the Tory cunt stakes.

I also don't like Jamie Reuben, Staveley, or our Saudi owners FWIW. Was far too young to understand anything when SJH was our owner.

1) Frank Lampard is a Tory 2) see 1

Ryan Fraser's proper funny like. Can you remember what you had to eat? I can't remember, I was just looking into his eyes.

If it's any consolation, if you do go down, I think you'll be immediately taken aback by how poor the standard is down there. Michael Keane would get 2 free goes before any mistakes were punished, and I'd still bank on even Rondon being very a useful Championship striker.

The good thing about Bruce is that he's been at so many clubs that there are enough people to know the PFM club within football and the media are talking shit. Whereas with someone like Pardew, for a long time it was just us and maybe a few West Ham fans who knew the grift.

Really? Don't remember it being awful like