Whitley mag

Unfortunately Yorkie what may be tedious to some is interesting to others, no one is forcing you to read it. Like it or not this bloke has a legal action pending with the PL, the PL will not want some information disclosed into the public domain, and thereby his action is a very real threat to them. So whether you think he is central to all this or a peripheral figure, any bits of info from someone in contact with buyer and seller is useful at this point. Jesus man, all Yorkie said was that it’s tedious people keep talking about him, meaning he’s sick of people arguing if what he says and does is good or bad. For what it’s worth I believe the people in the tweets are just pointing out something a lot of people will be thinking. The guy is spending a lot of money on legal action. Ok he might be able to afford it, but unless he’s a multimillionaire in which case he’s be in the top 1% of the countries earners, losing up to £500k is a blow that he would be effected by. £50k (which is how much he has spent so far) to many of us is a hell of a lot of money. He’s up against the Premier League who themselves are multi-billion pound organisation who will likely have the backing of 6 other billionaires who would be happy to go toe toe with him financially in order to prevent the takeover of they so wished. Are they right in warning him about losing his money? Aye. You keep saying would you say that in the pub to him if you can? Aye I would, I’d explain it to him that he could lose that money. Ultimately it’s his choice to take that advice, but if he turned around and swung a punch at me for saying it, like you keep suggestion, then everyone in the pub would think that he would be the w***** for doing so. Also, his attitude about how he has put his money in his pockets and he can afford it etc in his latest tweets is very condescending. Aye ok he seems to be in a place where he can afford it, and apparently through his hard graft, but a lot more people would do similar if they had the money. As I have pointed out in the past, plenty of members both on here and elsewhere have put a lot of money into efforts to shift Ashley, their losses aren’t published, so it’s not like others already haven’t. Lastly and perhaps most importantly, if he can easily afford this £50k he’s currently spent and can afford and is willing to spend £500k, why did he initially put the begging bowl out? You can’t put the begging bowl out, get stood up, then say it doesn’t matter because you are rich as f*** in anyway. It comes across as the condescending act he’s portrayed in terms of flirting his his wealth and costs. As far as I’m aware that was the wor fund group, it was only after that folded did Keith and Gordon Stein get involved. He’s since explained that if he’d been able to link season ticket holders to his action, then his legal advice is that is would already have got to court. Let’s bear in mind Robert O’Donoghue is one of the very best QC’s in relation to competition law so should know what he’s talking about. I don’t doubt others have made sacrifices in other ways, certainly people like Greg from NUST give up their own time freely. However, in my eyes this guy and Gordon Stein stand alone in the level of personal and financial risk they have exposed themselves to. I can only speak for myself, but even if i was a millionaire I doubt I would take on board this level of risk. I’m not saying that you would but a lot of people would. If I had won the Euro’s last night a year ago before this bid came about, I’d be chucking in my 10%. If I had a job or successful business where I could take legal action like this I probably would. The point is he comes across as condescending in the way he say he can afford this then ask why another’s aren’t putting their money in. Plenty have and few of us can to the level he can. It doesn’t make him any more or less of a supporter than others. That and jibes about you can’t support the club unless you are from the area are condensing, especially when he himself comes from an area where there is equal argument for him to be supporting Sunderland based on location. Just this last week I’ve had a private conversation with someone who is born and raised in the USA who wants to come over and drop a few grand buying a box for 1 game to go to the match with his family and some friends from here. Is he any less a fan? The point is, you are allowed and can separate what he’s done from what he says and how he comes across. People asking questions and expressing concern is no reason for those supports and others by proxy to be belittled by him. What he has done = Great, I’ll buy him a pint anytime I’ll see him. What he has said = Not great, very conferencing, when having said pint I’d respectfully explain that. He strikes me as the type of bloke who would gladly have a pint with you mate, as I’ve said before he’s an old timer and maybe he hasn’t played social media well. But many who watched his podcast will confirm that he didn’t say others from outside the area shouldn’t support the club, that was very much twisted out of context. We can all say we’d do this and do that. However, why hasn’t anybody else if that is the case ? I’m sure we have other wealthy individuals who support us, or groups who could have clubbed together. The fact is they haven’t and for that himself and Gordon Stein stand alone in my opinion.

Unfortunately Yorkie what may be tedious to some is interesting to others, no one is forcing you to read it. Like it or not this bloke has a legal action pending with the PL, the PL will not want some information disclosed into the public domain, and thereby his action is a very real threat to them. So whether you think he is central to all this or a peripheral figure, any bits of info from someone in contact with buyer and seller is useful at this point. Jesus man, all Yorkie said was that it’s tedious people keep talking about him, meaning he’s sick of people arguing if what he says and does is good or bad. For what it’s worth I believe the people in the tweets are just pointing out something a lot of people will be thinking. The guy is spending a lot of money on legal action. Ok he might be able to afford it, but unless he’s a multimillionaire in which case he’s be in the top 1% of the countries earners, losing up to £500k is a blow that he would be effected by. £50k (which is how much he has spent so far) to many of us is a hell of a lot of money. He’s up against the Premier League who themselves are multi-billion pound organisation who will likely have the backing of 6 other billionaires who would be happy to go toe toe with him financially in order to prevent the takeover of they so wished. Are they right in warning him about losing his money? Aye. You keep saying would you say that in the pub to him if you can? Aye I would, I’d explain it to him that he could lose that money. Ultimately it’s his choice to take that advice, but if he turned around and swung a punch at me for saying it, like you keep suggestion, then everyone in the pub would think that he would be the w***** for doing so. Also, his attitude about how he has put his money in his pockets and he can afford it etc in his latest tweets is very condescending. Aye ok he seems to be in a place where he can afford it, and apparently through his hard graft, but a lot more people would do similar if they had the money. As I have pointed out in the past, plenty of members both on here and elsewhere have put a lot of money into efforts to shift Ashley, their losses aren’t published, so it’s not like others already haven’t. Lastly and perhaps most importantly, if he can easily afford this £50k he’s currently spent and can afford and is willing to spend £500k, why did he initially put the begging bowl out? You can’t put the begging bowl out, get stood up, then say it doesn’t matter because you are rich as f*** in anyway. It comes across as the condescending act he’s portrayed in terms of flirting his his wealth and costs. As far as I’m aware that was the wor fund group, it was only after that folded did Keith and Gordon Stein get involved. He’s since explained that if he’d been able to link season ticket holders to his action, then his legal advice is that it would already have got to court. Let’s bear in mind Robert O’Donoghue is one of the very best QC’s in relation to competition law so should know what he’s talking about. I don’t doubt others have made sacrifices in other ways, certainly people like Greg from NUST give up their own time freely. However, in my eyes this guy and Gordon Stein stand alone in the level of personal and financial risk they have exposed themselves to. I can only speak for myself, but even if i was a millionaire I doubt I would take on board this level of risk.

Because it’s relevant, here’s another one for you my friend saying you can’t keep away.

Unfortunately Yorkie what may be tedious to some is interesting to others, no one is forcing you to read it. Like it or not this bloke has a legal action pending with the PL, the PL will not want some information disclosed into the public domain, and thereby his action is a very real threat to them. So whether you think he is central to all this or a peripheral figure, any bits of info from someone in contact with buyer and seller is useful at this point.

County Durham mate but don’t spoil their fun

I certainly read it and you questioned his behaviour, which i answered with the analogy of a bloke in the pub. Enjoy you’re bbq nice weather for it ?

So WM claims he isn't Keith, yet claims to know how much the case is setting him back in personally, not just the monetary value. Also, it isn't (setting him back personally, I mean). Anyone that thinks someone forks out an entire years salary on this (bearing in mind the salary is dropped by tax etc.) is clearly a bit simple. I’ll humour you despite you’re insults. He’s publicly stated it has set him back 50k so far in legal fees, and that he has ceased work for a year to facilitate this, including that he has turned down work also in this period. You’ll have to ask him with regards to his tax matters, however unless you believe he is lying all his claims have been made in the public domain.

He’s 100% entitled to hit back in my opinion, if someone came up to him in the pub and said you can’t afford to take this to court, would he not have the right to reply ? I totally disagree the money part is very important, how many of us could genuinely say they’d go to that level of personal self sacrifice ? If you don’t like his style of social engagement so be it, but the world would be very dull if we we’re all the same. You like him or you don’t, however his action is supported by club/buyer and he is currently a thorn in the EPL’s side. Maybe it takes a certain type of character to be able to handle numerous threatening letters from bird and bird. Totally respect you’re opinion though Ikon, each to their own in this matter.

A tosser prepared to sacrifice a years salary and spend huge sums to assist this takeover. We could certainly do with more tossers in the fan base.

Couple of interesting tweets from NCSL, which give a clue to the argument the EPL are using to park the competition case behind arbitration. It’s hardly believable though to suggest Ashley has employed legal counsel to fight on behalf of NCSL and shows the lengths and lies the EPL will resort to. Also an example of the baseless statements Keith is presented with by argumentative fans on a daily basis, yes maybe he should just not reply, but a lot of negative know it all’s in our support constantly chipping away who know nowt.

He's been saying it for about a year... I find amusing that Ashley, the buyers, the PL and the lawyers don’t know what way it’s gonna go yet but there are a few in here that will tell you every single day that it’s happening and just to wait I think De Marco would have given Barnes/Ashley a very good idea of which way he thinks this will go. They may ‘think’ they have a good case. Many things can change the outcome of the case along the way. I’m sure the PL believe they also have a strong case or they would work something out by now. That’s also not even taking into consideration the impact relegation could have on the deal. I understand the positive view that relegation changes nothing but realistically there is no way we could know that. I’m very much down the middle where the takeover is concerned. It could go either way. Could even well be we win arbitration/things get sorted out but it’s taken that long pif wait to see the outcome of this season before coming back. Remember PIF will only come back if there is a clear pathway I know you’re cautious and that’s fair enough, but sorted before arbitration is still my opinion, it’s all on hold until Bein and legal cases are settled. Even that could take months to sort out It could but then it’ll be down to Ashley to agree a new price if we go down. Hopefully we don’t go down and no messy renegotiation of price is required.

He's been saying it for about a year... I find amusing that Ashley, the buyers, the PL and the lawyers don’t know what way it’s gonna go yet but there are a few in here that will tell you every single day that it’s happening and just to wait I think De Marco would have given Barnes/Ashley a very good idea of which way he thinks this will go. They may ‘think’ they have a good case. Many things can change the outcome of the case along the way. I’m sure the PL believe they also have a strong case or they would work something out by now. That’s also not even taking into consideration the impact relegation could have on the deal. I understand the positive view that relegation changes nothing but realistically there is no way we could know that. I’m very much down the middle where the takeover is concerned. It could go either way. Could even well be we win arbitration/things get sorted out but it’s taken that long pif wait to see the outcome of this season before coming back. Remember PIF will only come back if there is a clear pathway I know you’re cautious and that’s fair enough, but sorted before arbitration is still my opinion, it’s all on hold until Bein and legal cases are settled.

He's been saying it for about a year... I find amusing that Ashley, the buyers, the PL and the lawyers don’t know what way it’s gonna go yet but there are a few in here that will tell you every single day that it’s happening and just to wait I think De Marco would have given Barnes/Ashley a very good idea of which way he thinks this will go.

Shearer currently on this at min.

Cheers Scoot, back and refreshed for the final push. Good to have you back, been a bit lonely here! Yes, "the final push" sums up exactly where we are now at! A logical decision by the moderators in the end manorpark ! The fact the arbitration hearing has not began points to one thing, compromise and this being passed. Why would the consortium/Ashley be keen to wait at this point, because they know the ramifications of Bein being reinstated and the legal cases being dropped. Our positivity and realism will proved well founded my friend. Inshallah! Yours and Manorpark's posts have been what's kept the lights on for toon fans mate, not really interested in hearing the cold water brigade alternative right now. While there's even a glimmer of hope the takeover will still happen I will keep believing. The alternative just isn't something I want to think about at this point. If ever. Agree completely I’m out for good if this doesn’t go through. If Bein is restored in Saudi Arabia there is no legitimate reason for blocking this takeover any longer. The Burnley takeover sham makes a mockery of Masters claims that they are protecting the club. How in anyway in our current guise could we be any worse off, the current version of NUFC suits them perfectly. Gazumped by Liverpool for a defender on deadline day and giving game time to an Arsenal youngster. The establishment don’t want this takeover, but they’ve underestimated the will of all involved to make this happen.

I can’t promise that after all I never actually insulted anyone and it was purely banter. Whether you consider that banter as poor is upto the admin to decide. Unfortunately I can only be responsible for my own actions and not some IT glitches on this site. Were some of your posts deleted as I couldn't see anything bad at all? Absolutely not but I harbour no grudges and respect the moderators decision. I’m sure I’ll be in bother again at some point but all good natured.

Don’t think you had any concerns Jinky you’re far more eloquent and restrained than myself I’m very much in that place to, think this is the calm before it all kicks off. Let’s hope for 3 points tomorrow, Mehdrad’s response to winning last week shows how important staying up is.

I can’t promise that after all I never actually insulted anyone and it was purely banter. Whether you consider that banter as poor is upto the admin to decide. Unfortunately I can only be responsible for my own actions and not some IT glitches on this site.

Cheers Scoot, back and refreshed for the final push. Good to have you back, been a bit lonely here! Yes, "the final push" sums up exactly where we are now at! A logical decision by the moderators in the end manorpark ! The fact the arbitration hearing has not began points to one thing, compromise and this being passed. Why would the consortium/Ashley be keen to wait at this point, because they know the ramifications of Bein being reinstated and the legal cases being dropped. Our positivity and realism will proved well founded my friend. Talking to yourself is a sure sign of madness It was only 24 hours but good to know you’re still reading my posts. Keep the faith Sean it must have been hard for you to venture into this thread.

We need to remember De Marco by his own self publication has worked for all the governing bodies. He knows how they think and what they require, he settles disputes and gets results. He’ll be well aware of what the PL require to get this passed.

Cheers Scoot, back and refreshed for the final push. Good to have you back, been a bit lonely here! Yes, "the final push" sums up exactly where we are now at! A logical decision by the moderators in the end manorpark ! The fact the arbitration hearing has not began points to one thing, compromise and this being passed. Why would the consortium/Ashley be keen to wait at this point, because they know the ramifications of Bein being reinstated and the legal cases being dropped. Our positivity and realism will proved well founded my friend.

Cheers Scoot, back and refreshed for the final push.

Don’t think it’s that simple. I think Jacobs is meaning all the prep and choosing of the panel is part of arbitration where as I think Kennedy is meaning the actual hearing So In a sense they are both right Possibly. But why not just say that? Kennedy leaves everything far too open for interpretation, whereas Jacobs is always very clear and to the point. That’s because Kennedy is drip fed tiny bits of info without having any real knowledge whereas Jacobs has been pretty much spot on with his info since the beginning. Far be it for me to gate crash, but would you trust this man. Stick to Kennedy he’s got good sources. https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/article-1251554/CHARLES-SALE-Official-BBC-report-bares-Ben-Jacobs-sabotage-saga.html

Like a Phoenix from the flames, Whitley Mag will never be defeated ! A lifetime ban reduced to 24 hours after arbitration ! Don’t worry mate this is an accurate reflection of the current state of play. Ignore the noise once the court cases are dropped this goes through without the arbitration hearing. Bein need the Saudis back to make the deal pay and once that happens we get our takeover. Remember the gulf treaty included all legal cases being dropped.

I’ll reveal all when I pen my memoirs with Liam Kennedy. Don’t worry I’ll make sure you get one and I’ll even sign it with zebras ? ???? for good measure.