Lish007

Great post and a good outside view to which I wholeheartedly agree with. The hard start cannot be understated and I would argue, that even though we haven't played well, we've also been unlucky and had multiple chances that have hit the post or we've not taken. And yes, it's no shame to Howe to lose against those top managers, especially given his age and lack of game time at the top. But I really believe in this guy and I believe he can become elite if we stick with him. Look at Klopp's rise to the elite... It's not dissimilar to Howe. But he needs time to adapt and learn..I really hope the club and us give him that - I think he's earned the right. Well done on your win today, played very well.

And we beat this Aston Villa team 5-1. So are we now better than Liverpool? Literally guys we will be absolutely fine.

What did he do?

The Liverpool v villa game gives me a lot of confidence for the run we're on at the moment. Can't underestimate how big of a problem having a difficult start is. I feel like we've been massively stitched up to try to bring our morale down. Even Brentford isn't easy!

Illegal stream is where it's at

Yup. 1 point, same GD. Arguably we should have lost that game last season but should have won an awful lot more of those draws so I'm sure we will make it up. Fucking hard start man. Need a break!

I reckon Targett will want to cement his place. This is his first chance since Burn took his place to really claim it back. Show us what ya got Matty!!

Ahhhhh 1 hour to go!!!!!!

Great news... Not too many changes. Burn v Brighton.

Any early team news... :P

Classy IMO. I like him a lot.

Disgusting. Honestly hope he has a career ending injury.

Don't we need Dummett for the home grown quota of CL?

If this happens it means that Salah is worth two thirds of what Newcastle was 18 months ago. Fucking mental!

We really miss Willock in these situations. Totally underrated how much he helps us create.

Not sure he's eligible anymore mate... When they get picked to start the qualifiers for the tournaments I think they have to be 21 and under but he's 22 so it's just the big boys for him now.

I really feel that this is a greater achievement than most give him credit for. And he did it on a shoe string budget. Honestly, this guy does not get the respect he deserves from other managers or fans. They literally just remember him for relegating Bournemouth, it's so narrow minded. He's also going toe to toe with some of the biggest clubs our their with half the financial layout and time they've had. I agree, he's outstanding.

Great post and totally correct. We've been dossing around with the small time teams for far too long and have grown used to losing. We, as fans, don't have the mental strength you need to be a true winner yet. But it will come! We've all got to learn and grow as a club! Rome wasn't built in a day!

Great experience for Miley and co though!!

I know what you mean but tbh, it gives me great satisfaction that their rebuild and success will be sanctioned by the same money that is building us and they will have literally nothing to say about it. I'm so sick of their entitled fans thinking we don't give a fuck about how Saudi Arabia has a disgusting regime. They think we should be completely boycotting our club. I'd like them to torch their own cars and not drive ever until oil is ethically sourced and not bought from SA, but they won't because they're hypocrites.

Bitter little boy.

Wow. Just wow.

Big display needed for Brentford home game after the break, boys need to know we behind them 100% after all this twitter and 10 men shit! I'm dropping some dollar again when I get paid!

Do you think Pep will leave soon though? I thought before the PL he only stayed at each club about 4 years (haven't looked this up by the way) but with Man City, he's got a club where he can basically buy who he wants, change tactics and mould of team, try new things - all whilst being in a league where it's not "completely" guaranteed that you'll win it each time, it's pretty competitive with some great managers. Unless he retired, where else would he go for that much stimulation? I can't believe he wants a quiet life yet. With Newcastle coming up and us determined eventually to be number 1, we could have quite a nice fight on that would be very interesting to witness. The only other thing I could see him doing would be returning to Barcelona to restore their former glory. But who knows I guess, just speculating.

They probably didn't want to have us either, esp at our place. Eddie Masterclass coming up. Rip them a new one. Failing that, at least we are out of one competition to win the CL