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Well devils advocate if you just do L7, and move all the east stand season ticket holders up there, and redo the east stand you could turn the whole east stand corporate and get most of the income. Swap season ticket holders paying hundreds for boxes earning thousands. Easiest way to boost revenue, as it’s the corporate option that is lacking compared to other grounds. You said you think a new stadium would be multi billions, that won’t get paid for out of season tickets costing thousands. It depends on what the Board decide the aim of the stadium is. Atmosphere or cash.

They are not going to announce a new stadium with a design and a new location in one go. The first question is whether to build a new one or rebuild SJP, that’s all that will be decided initially. A new stadium would cost at least £500m, more than the club cost, it’s not going to be a quick decision. It will go all the way up the chain at PIF.The longer it takes the more serious its being taken so if you want a new stadium the delay is a good sign. If the decision is a new build I doubt they’ll only have one location, more likely a shortlist with a preferred option. The club don’t own Leazes park so be crazy to announce a new stadium on land owned by someone else. It would become the Guehi of land purchases

Don’t think it’s surprising that Newcastle fans aren’t keen on rules that allow Man Utd, Liverpool, Arsenal and Spurs to spend double on squad costs than Newcastle Man City aren’t accused of actual crimes, they are accused of breaking rules plucked out of thin air to thwart Man City’s growth

Pretty crazy that James Bond came down in favour of the deal

Found guilty on a handful of charges. Get some actual punishment. City Appeal result. Punishment downgraded to minor fine and some suspended points deduction that then never happens.

The independent regulator is going to be a disaster. Last thing football needs is another bunch of suits interfering. They will expand their mandate bit by bit until they are fiddling with everything, PSR will look light touch by the time they are done

Am sure Tonali starts. The query was over match fitness after so long out and he’s now demonstrated that.

Agree with most of the posts. I think with Kane you also have to reflect that he’s only 2.5 years older than Watkins and has proved himself in tournaments and in the CL as recently as last year. If you wave goodbye to Kane you are left with Watkins, Toney, Rashford or going in for some sort of false 9. Watkins probably seen as the best of the bunch but has played one season in Europe in total and only has 4 England goals. I don’t think it’s enough to ditch Kane for. I don’t know what the pipeline looks like but Gordon was the striker last year for the youngsters which to me suggests there may not be an obvious no9 coming through. TLDR: better to make it work with Kane as the alternatives don’t stack up (yet)

Chelsea do a lot of this type of stuff, ordinary seats but with off site hospitality. I’m a bit twitchy on it as it allows areas of the ground unsuitable for traditional hospitality to be corporate - for example the gallowgate and east stand. Clearly revenue advantages though

Yeah, unfortunately a few people blatantly and obviously taking the piss spoiled it for everyone. Hopefully in a season or two things can be relaxed a bit again, as it seemed to me the touting side exploded over the past 5 years, I think it was pre takeover as well. With 50 points and used to be able to go almost anywhere, and even pre covid found suddenly couldn’t get to games like West Ham anymore - and given regularly went to Upton Park, being unable to get tickets for the London stadium was odd, to me it suggests the touting had got out of control. Who knows the police may also have had a word with the club and told them to look at who is going as about the scale as around the same time the amount of coke in the away end exploded.

Villa Park has a 42k capacity so if you hike every ticket by £40 for 4 CL games you’ve got an extra £6.7m. The corporate tickets have probably been hiked even further, I reckon their new prices have maybe made the club an extra £10m versus keeping their regular prices. And that’s just on the hike, its pure profit. Financially it makes perfect sense, under PSR even clubs whose owners are prepared to fund them are incentivised to fleece fans to boost revenue.

Tbh that’s was every toon away trip.

Not actually true. The ‘last’ row is the most expensive to build, as it’s the highest and furthest away - more stairs, more concrete, more steel. Means the last row has the lowest return on investment, as it has the highest cost to build and the lowest ticket price.

I’d totally forgotten he played for the toon, despite probably watching every one of his home games. First season a disaster, but his later seasons he was decent. The sad truth is the club dropped down to his level and he was a decent pro, when the hope when he’d signed is that he’d lift the club. He did well in KKs 433

I’m a Kane believer. I think he just needs players who get beyond him, like Gordon. Big question for Carsley is what he does when Foden, Bellingham and Palmer are fit. Is he a coward like Southgate and pick the 11 biggest names or does he pick a team. He’s shown the benefits of picking a team but it’s low stakes so far

How dare you EAST STAND, EAST STAND, EAST STAND (I reckon you’ve got to be at least over 40 to recognise that)

So much bad blood between the clubs I can’t see it happening. Spurs and Man Utd are the two clubs I don’t think there’ll be any business with, as exec relationships are too bad

Great to see him start, big boost for him. Deserved it, and deserved it 2 months ago…

Man City have a massive PSR issue. That’s why they’ve ended up in all these legal fights. Yes they can spend the most in the PL, but it’s Real they want to be able to compete with financially and PSR prevents that.

HBA would last <5 minutes in a Howe squad. That’s not even debatable. Honestly they would hate each other

The club said 9 months at the start, they are still saying 9 months now, given that’s informed by the surgeon and medical staff 9 months and back to playing in December seems reasonable. He may have a set back, or pick up a niggle, but it’s 5 and a half months in so they’ll know it’s progressing according to plan.

Are people happy with the transfer window, including selling Anderson and Minteh and buying the Greek in a panic? NO! Do people want anything to change? NO!

Hard disagree. The increase in the likes of Gordon, Tino etc came through coaching and development at Newcastle. It’s value created at Newcastle. At the time they were signed they didn’t have that value. You don’t pay someone else for work you have to do yourself. Hall and Tino in particular may well turn out well, but the risk is all on Newcastle, for example Tino could have had another injury. Hall is going through intense coaching and isn’t yet a starter, but the fees paid were fees for complete players. The risk and downside of it not coming off is all on Newcastle, there’s no refunds if a signing doesn’t make it. Guehi may become a 70m player, but until he actually is one it’s not a sensible price to pay, otherwise you take all of the risk of him not stepping up.

Two bits: 1) Howe will be happy when he’s given top players to work with. That’s on Mitchell to deliver 2) Not every like in the interview is a dig/attack on someone, be that Ashworth, Staveley, Howe, Palace, most of it is just answers to questions. You can read far too much into these things

Im not sure how to read this, whether he means (or the paper has misprinted) “was it all aligned with the head coach” As that would make sense to me, for example the interest in Miggy, the talk about Trippier, based on Howes comments Howe didn’t want either going and they were put up for sale, plus the Gordon business. If the lesson here is Howe has to be happy with the sales plan I’m all for it.