Guest Guinness Posted October 23, 2007 Share Posted October 23, 2007 I've been very impressed by Cacapa so far, he just seems to be a natural defender, good positional sense and calm under pressure. Faye also looked quality yesterday, he's very strong in the air and at tackling, his power is a great asset when attacking set pieces as shown when he hit the bar. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest teepee Posted October 23, 2007 Share Posted October 23, 2007 potentially the end of taylors time here. Not concerned with this tbh. i am - i think taylor will be a great player, just needs time to develop. that said, i was absolutely delighted by our central pairing yesterday - the best i've seen in years for us! He won't like. Lots of people seem to want him to be (understandably) but he simply doesn't have it. Time to develop into a great? He's nearly 22 man. We had the same s*** with James Milner last season. Both are decent squad players. The sooner people lower their expectations the better - for both club and player. Then we might see him concentrating on his own game rather the Captain Fantastic routine with the inevitable arm to the left and associated f***-up. He has the chance to learn from Cacapa, Faye and Rohzenal and I hope he takes it. He needs to. what is it that he simply doesn't have? and just for the record, most defenders improve greatly at his age. i think he can and will as well. the only sense you make is that he needs to learn from our more experienced cb's... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest sondre Posted October 23, 2007 Share Posted October 23, 2007 If only the same could be said about our backs. Cacapa and Faye have been fantastic, but enrique and beye simply awful. And what's up with Geremi taking most of the set-pieces ? He should just leave it to Emre. He's sh!t technically, and his set-pieces have been pretty bad. Emre's corner was pretty beautiful, which led to Cacapa's header.Also, before Emre went to take the corner it was beautiful to see the supporters clap for him and him clapping back, it makes it even more meaningful that it led to a goal. All in all, pretty encouraging. I said it a couple weeks ago that with the additions of Emre, Barton and Co. we'll get better and better every day. I'm looking forward to the day that Emre and Barton can play together, that'll make a pretty good duo. Now all we need is to fix the back problem, Enrique is decent compared to Beye, who was just horrible. Also, Owen has been amazing. I love the way he played, helping the defence, distributing the ball, I think the likes of Nzogbia and Martins should learn a thing or two from the man. Nzogbia needs to learn to pass and stop dribbling continuously at every possession. Enrique aweful? did you see him yesterday? beautiful long balls to Oba, and a very solid performance overall. Cant really see Emre playing together with Barton in the middle with Butt playing as well as he does at the moment. Cant really see the praise you give for Owen either. Looks ok, but the lack of the old pace just takes away the edge of his game. Would have loved to see him go in January, being replaced with Anelka. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parky Posted October 23, 2007 Share Posted October 23, 2007 CD' s don't really mature till they are 26+. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tooj Posted October 23, 2007 Share Posted October 23, 2007 CD' s don't really mature till they are 26+. Unless you're names Jonathan Woodgate. I'm talking about on pitch by the way before anyone states otherwise. :parky: Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Stephen927 Posted October 23, 2007 Share Posted October 23, 2007 I'm loving our new look back four, a drastic improvement from last season. Cacapa looks a class above any central defender we've had in the last 10 years or so, Rozehnal hasn't really done anything wrong but it's great to have these options and competition for places in the back four, instead of not having any options either due to injuries or not bringing the bodies in. Very pleased with what Big Sam has done so far, there's been a few ugly games like Derby but we've reacted well and had a very good start to the season. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest alex Posted October 23, 2007 Share Posted October 23, 2007 potentially the end of taylors time here. Not concerned with this tbh. i am - i think taylor will be a great player, just needs time to develop. that said, i was absolutely delighted by our central pairing yesterday - the best i've seen in years for us! He won't like. Lots of people seem to want him to be (understandably) but he simply doesn't have it. Time to develop into a great? He's nearly 22 man. We had the same s*** with James Milner last season. Both are decent squad players. The sooner people lower their expectations the better - for both club and player. Then we might see him concentrating on his own game rather the Captain Fantastic routine with the inevitable arm to the left and associated f***-up. He has the chance to learn from Cacapa, Faye and Rohzenal and I hope he takes it. He needs to. what is it that he simply doesn't have? and just for the record, most defenders improve greatly at his age. i think he can and will as well. the only sense you make is that he needs to learn from our more experienced cb's... Pace, composure and positioning for a start. I agree he should get better over time but I don't think he'll ever be as good as some suggest. He has bags of first team experience, which some people tend to neglect when they big up his 'potential', and you'd think he would have cut out the mistakes more if he was going to be that great, bearing that in mind. As I've said before, I would love him to prove me wrong but he's definitely the number 4 centre-half at the club now. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leazes1986 Posted October 23, 2007 Share Posted October 23, 2007 They were excellent last night. Cacapa could turn into a real bargain for us. Hopefully we can get a few years out of him and he can stay fit. Its weird having quality defenders who i have confidence in. Good work Sam. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TaylorJ_01 Posted October 24, 2007 Share Posted October 24, 2007 I feel sorry for Rozenhal, he looked brilliant pre-season and the start of this one but can't complain about his replacements. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Alan Shearer 9 Posted October 24, 2007 Share Posted October 24, 2007 Rozenhal will get plenty of games if anyone gets injured, he can fill in for Butt also. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KaKa Posted October 24, 2007 Share Posted October 24, 2007 Rozenhal will get plenty of games if anyone gets injured, he can fill in for Butt also. I think Rozehnal will eventually play in midfield in place of Butt in the longterm. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Nguyen Van Falk Posted October 24, 2007 Share Posted October 24, 2007 As a lover of strong crunching tackles (haha) it's great to have two players who are both capable of it and are also good defenders. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Optimistic Nut Posted October 25, 2007 Share Posted October 25, 2007 Alan Oliver summed up his footballing knowledge in the Chronicle yesterday when he admitted he'd never heard of Cacapa before we signed him...unbelievable. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
WarrenBartonCentrePartin Posted October 25, 2007 Share Posted October 25, 2007 Alan Oliver summed up his footballing knowledge in the Chronicle yesterday when he admitted he'd never heard of Cacapa before we signed him...unbelievable. Shay Given's gone one better!! From the Journal this morning... The 31-year-old Brazilian scored his first goal for the Magpies against Spurs on Monday night, but Given is more impressed with his ability at the other end of the pitch. He said: “I’ve been trying to learn Spanish to help with the communication side of things, but I tried to speak to Caçapa in Spanish and had forgotten they speak Portuguese in Brazil. He just gave me a blank look. It obviously hasn’t been very successful so far but I’m working on it. ;D http://www.journallive.co.uk/nufc/newcastle-united-news/2007/10/25/given-we-will-entertain-you-61634-20004754/ Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest alex Posted October 25, 2007 Share Posted October 25, 2007 Rozenhal will get plenty of games if anyone gets injured, he can fill in for Butt also. I think Rozehnal will eventually play in midfield in place of Butt in the longterm. I have to admit to being a bit sceptical about his ability to play there at first but I think you may well be correct. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colos Short and Curlies Posted October 25, 2007 Share Posted October 25, 2007 Alan Oliver summed up his footballing knowledge in the Chronicle yesterday when he admitted he'd never heard of Cacapa before we signed him...unbelievable. Shay Given's gone one better!! From the Journal this morning... The 31-year-old Brazilian scored his first goal for the Magpies against Spurs on Monday night, but Given is more impressed with his ability at the other end of the pitch. He said: Ive been trying to learn Spanish to help with the communication side of things, but I tried to speak to Caçapa in Spanish and had forgotten they speak Portuguese in Brazil. He just gave me a blank look. It obviously hasnt been very successful so far but Im working on it. ;D http://www.journallive.co.uk/nufc/newcastle-united-news/2007/10/25/given-we-will-entertain-you-61634-20004754/ I'm being a pendantic tool here, but wasn't it the 95-96 team which were the entertainers, and not the 96-97 which is alluded to in the article? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest alex Posted October 25, 2007 Share Posted October 25, 2007 We were already called the entertainers before the 95-96 season iirc. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wullie Posted October 25, 2007 Share Posted October 25, 2007 Alan Oliver summed up his footballing knowledge in the Chronicle yesterday when he admitted he'd never heard of Cacapa before we signed him...unbelievable. Shay Given's gone one better!! From the Journal this morning... The 31-year-old Brazilian scored his first goal for the Magpies against Spurs on Monday night, but Given is more impressed with his ability at the other end of the pitch. He said: “I’ve been trying to learn Spanish to help with the communication side of things, but I tried to speak to Caçapa in Spanish and had forgotten they speak Portuguese in Brazil. He just gave me a blank look. It obviously hasn’t been very successful so far but I’m working on it. ;D http://www.journallive.co.uk/nufc/newcastle-united-news/2007/10/25/given-we-will-entertain-you-61634-20004754/ They showed a clip of an interview with Shay the other night on Look North asking if he knew how to pronounce Cacapa, he said something along the lines of "You're asking an Irishman? I don't know, Gazpacho or something, he sounds like a salad." Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nobody Posted October 25, 2007 Share Posted October 25, 2007 Alan Oliver summed up his footballing knowledge in the Chronicle yesterday when he admitted he'd never heard of Cacapa before we signed him...unbelievable. Shay Given's gone one better!! From the Journal this morning... The 31-year-old Brazilian scored his first goal for the Magpies against Spurs on Monday night, but Given is more impressed with his ability at the other end of the pitch. He said: Ive been trying to learn Spanish to help with the communication side of things, but I tried to speak to Caçapa in Spanish and had forgotten they speak Portuguese in Brazil. He just gave me a blank look. It obviously hasnt been very successful so far but Im working on it. ;D http://www.journallive.co.uk/nufc/newcastle-united-news/2007/10/25/given-we-will-entertain-you-61634-20004754/ They showed a clip of an interview with Shay the other night on Look North asking if he knew how to pronounce Cacapa, he said something along the lines of "You're asking an Irishman? I don't know, Gazpacho or something, he sounds like a salad." :lol: Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NG32 Posted October 25, 2007 Share Posted October 25, 2007 We were already called the entertainers before the 95-96 season iirc. Richard Keys dubbed us the entertainers in our first season back in the prem. After the game away against Oldham, where we won 1-3. Going a goal down first then coming back to win. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
merlin Posted October 25, 2007 Share Posted October 25, 2007 We were already called the entertainers before the 95-96 season iirc. Richard Keys dubbed us the entertainers in our first season back in the prem. After the game away against Oldham, where we won 1-3. Going a goal down first then coming back to win. Correct. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest BooBoo Posted October 25, 2007 Share Posted October 25, 2007 Cacapa's teeth are magnificent! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Steven_MB Posted October 25, 2007 Share Posted October 25, 2007 Alan Oliver summed up his footballing knowledge in the Chronicle yesterday when he admitted he'd never heard of Cacapa before we signed him...unbelievable. Shay Given's gone one better!! From the Journal this morning... The 31-year-old Brazilian scored his first goal for the Magpies against Spurs on Monday night, but Given is more impressed with his ability at the other end of the pitch. He said: Ive been trying to learn Spanish to help with the communication side of things, but I tried to speak to Caçapa in Spanish and had forgotten they speak Portuguese in Brazil. He just gave me a blank look. It obviously hasnt been very successful so far but Im working on it. ;D http://www.journallive.co.uk/nufc/newcastle-united-news/2007/10/25/given-we-will-entertain-you-61634-20004754/ that article says "With a Frenchman, a Spaniard, a Brazilian and a Senegalese against Spurs," Surely two senegalese and no frenchies in defence? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kev Posted October 25, 2007 Share Posted October 25, 2007 i watched about 20minutes of the training today and faye looked outstanding once again cacapa was playing at right back smith done fuck all, viduka wasnt training, martins missed hundreds of sitters i suppose it doesnt matter but ... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Pie Posted October 25, 2007 Share Posted October 25, 2007 Alan Oliver summed up his footballing knowledge in the Chronicle yesterday when he admitted he'd never heard of Cacapa before we signed him...unbelievable. Shay Given's gone one better!! From the Journal this morning... The 31-year-old Brazilian scored his first goal for the Magpies against Spurs on Monday night, but Given is more impressed with his ability at the other end of the pitch. He said: “I’ve been trying to learn Spanish to help with the communication side of things, but I tried to speak to Caçapa in Spanish and had forgotten they speak Portuguese in Brazil. He just gave me a blank look. It obviously hasn’t been very successful so far but I’m working on it. ;D http://www.journallive.co.uk/nufc/newcastle-united-news/2007/10/25/given-we-will-entertain-you-61634-20004754/ that article says "With a Frenchman, a Spaniard, a Brazilian and a Senegalese against Spurs," Surely two senegalese and no frenchies in defence? Faye was born in Dakar, Senagal. Beye was born in France. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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