Steve McClaren

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Anita is an odd player. He can have games where he looks class but is poor most of the time

[Kanj]

You can see that many of our players have been fucked by the brand of coaching Pardew and his idiots employed. They've lost many of their instincts over the past few years in favor of booting it deep or passing it back to the goalie or standing still and not creating any space through simple movement.

[Guest reefatoon]

I didn't see that game but I can honestly say I've never seen Anita treat the ball like a hot f***ing potato

 

Try watching him play then, it might help.

[Dave]

Anita is an odd player. He can have games where he looks class but is poor most of the time

 

It's almost as though there's potential there that could be realised with good coaching.

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You can see that many of our players have been fucked by the brand of coaching Pardew and his idiots employed. They've lost many of their instincts over the past few years in favor of booting it deep or passing it back to the goalie or standing still and not creating any space through simple movement.

 

I remember the Swansea game (2-3) after Abeid came on, he had the ball about the halfway line and ended up passing it backwards and the crowd got restless - he was visibly moving his arms in different directions, encouraging the rest of the team to give him options and they were just completely static. They're simple things in football we've been getting wrong for years now.

 

It really is going to take a while to get that right. That's Pardew, and his 'coaching' set ups legacy here.

[mrmojorisin75]

I didn't see that game but I can honestly say I've never seen Anita treat the ball like a hot f***ing potato

 

Try watching him play then, it might help.

Get to fuck man. He looks to move the ball quickly once he receives it, that's how he was coached at Ajax and is a very different thing to treating it like a hot potato.

 

I'll concede that being pressed heavily by the opposition midfield with poor options to pass to is absolutely not his thing.

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I didn't see that game but I can honestly say I've never seen Anita treat the ball like a hot f***ing potato

 

Try watching him play then, it might help.

Get to fuck man. He looks to move the ball quickly once he receives it, that's how he was coached at Ajax and is a very different thing to treating it like a hot potato.

 

I'll concede that being pressed heavily by the opposition midfield with poor options to pass to is absolutely not his thing.

 

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[Guest reefatoon]

He offers nothing and is a waste of a shirt if we have to play other players around him to do all the work. It's not as if any of his passes are incisive, they are all "get shot to the nearest person as quick as possible" and that doesn't work with 2 in the middle.  Needs to offer so much more and he doesn't. Needs replaced with better.

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He offers nothing and is a waste of a shirt if we have to play other players around him to do all the work. It's not as if any of his passes are incisive, they are all "get shot to the nearest person as quick as possible" and that doesn't work with 2 in the middle.  Needs to offer so much more and he doesn't. Needs replaced with better.

 

Arguably most of our squad need 'replaced with better' but under the right coaching set up, I see a hell of a lot more potential improvement in Anita than the likes of Williamson, Gouffran, Riviere etc

[Guest reefatoon]

He offers nothing and is a waste of a shirt if we have to play other players around him to do all the work. It's not as if any of his passes are incisive, they are all "get shot to the nearest person as quick as possible" and that doesn't work with 2 in the middle.  Needs to offer so much more and he doesn't. Needs replaced with better.

 

Arguably most of our squad need 'replaced with better' but under the right coaching set up, I see a hell of a lot more potential improvement in Anita than the likes of Williamson, Gouffran, Riviere etc

 

He is already an improvement on those three knackers you mentioned, he isn't as bad as them, just a nothing player, someone you forget is even playing.

[Hanshithispantz]

"Nothing player" is pointlessly harsh like.

[Twinport53]

He offers nothing and is a waste of a shirt if we have to play other players around him to do all the work. It's not as if any of his passes are incisive, they are all "get shot to the nearest person as quick as possible" and that doesn't work with 2 in the middle.  Needs to offer so much more and he doesn't. Needs replaced with better.

 

Arguably most of our squad need 'replaced with better' but under the right coaching set up, I see a hell of a lot more potential improvement in Anita than the likes of Williamson, Gouffran, Riviere etc

 

He is already an improvement on those three knackers you mentioned, he isn't as bad as them, just a nothing player, someone you forget is even playing.

 

So you forgot he was playing so much, that you exclusively complain about his non-existent performance. And can talk about everything you didn't see, nice one.

[Guest reefatoon]

He offers nothing and is a waste of a shirt if we have to play other players around him to do all the work. It's not as if any of his passes are incisive, they are all "get shot to the nearest person as quick as possible" and that doesn't work with 2 in the middle.  Needs to offer so much more and he doesn't. Needs replaced with better.

 

Arguably most of our squad need 'replaced with better' but under the right coaching set up, I see a hell of a lot more potential improvement in Anita than the likes of Williamson, Gouffran, Riviere etc

 

He is already an improvement on those three knackers you mentioned, he isn't as bad as them, just a nothing player, someone you forget is even playing.

 

So you forgot he was playing so much, that you exclusively complain about his non-existent performance. And can talk about everything you didn't see, nice one.

 

This makes absolutely no sense, poor effort. Your midfield should be able to influence a game. He doesn't, you could go by huge chunks of the game and not even know he is on the pitch, which is right to complain about.

[Guest reefatoon]

"Nothing player" is pointlessly harsh like.

 

I am not sure if it is though. He doesn't seem to excel in anything, but seems to avoid the same hatred Colback gets for doing the exact same thing. Just find it a bit baffling. Some players seem to get built right up without actually producing anything. Marveaux is another example of that. Anyway. I'll take it into his thread instead of clogging up this one.

 

Actually point made by his thread being way back on the third page. Nothing player I tells ya!

[Doctor Zaius]

Anita will have a really good season under McClaren imo

[Collage]

He offers nothing and is a waste of a shirt if we have to play other players around him to do all the work. It's not as if any of his passes are incisive, they are all "get shot to the nearest person as quick as possible" and that doesn't work with 2 in the middle.  Needs to offer so much more and he doesn't. Needs replaced with better.

 

He shouldn't be making the decisive passes, his role/style is playing the safe, "easy" passes, and he's able to do that quickly. Fundamental when playing a possession game and when you want to control the tempo of a game.

[mrmojorisin75]

He offers nothing and is a waste of a shirt if we have to play other players around him to do all the work. It's not as if any of his passes are incisive, they are all "get shot to the nearest person as quick as possible" and that doesn't work with 2 in the middle.  Needs to offer so much more and he doesn't. Needs replaced with better.

 

Arguably most of our squad need 'replaced with better' but under the right coaching set up, I see a hell of a lot more potential improvement in Anita than the likes of Williamson, Gouffran, Riviere etc

 

He is already an improvement on those three knackers you mentioned, he isn't as bad as them, just a nothing player, someone you forget is even playing.

 

So you forgot he was playing so much, that you exclusively complain about his non-existent performance. And can talk about everything you didn't see, nice one.

 

This makes absolutely no sense, poor effort. Your midfield should be able to influence a game. He doesn't, you could go by huge chunks of the game and not even know he is on the pitch, which is right to complain about.

He was very influential vs West Ham as I recall, harrying, pressing and intercepting on the front foot (sorry ) instead of constantly being pressed back by the other teams midfield and having no options to pass to.

 

To me he needs playing further forward but I'm not sure how that could be accommodated having just bought Wijnaldum and already having De Jong etc

[TRon]

Personally think Anita is a bit of a nothing player. Think he switches off too often, both on and off the ball. His first touch isn't great and his passing is average. Just a bang average footballer, with the added disadvantage of being tiny in a Premier League midfield.

 

He's roughly the same size as Colback if that picture of them both standing next to Lascelles is anything to go by. I prefer more physical midfielders myself butof the two of them, at least he has the attributes to play the defensive mid role as he is a bit quicker so mistimes less tackles.

[Hanshithispantz]

Colback's criticism is harsh but that's mainly because he's a little shitbag. I agree though, I don't think Anita has shown enough to suggest he should be 1 of our 2 main central midfielders this year, I think we need to buy someone else (we'll obviously not like). I just want to see him in a team that at least has some kind of plan, if he tuns out to be shit then so be it but he's shown himself to be incredibly comfortable on the ball in the past and, unlike Colback, he's willing take risks.

 

Anyway, at worst he's probably the best cover we have at either fullback position.

 

[Guest reefatoon]

He offers nothing and is a waste of a shirt if we have to play other players around him to do all the work. It's not as if any of his passes are incisive, they are all "get shot to the nearest person as quick as possible" and that doesn't work with 2 in the middle.  Needs to offer so much more and he doesn't. Needs replaced with better.

 

He shouldn't be making the decisive passes, his role/style is playing the safe, "easy" passes, and he's able to do that quickly. Fundamental when playing a possession game and when you want to control the tempo of a game.

 

Which all sounds great, but when he is 1 of 2 players in there, he needs to do more than "simple passes" If he can't then he is a liability and we need something more. I think Abeid offered so much more in that position, because he has more to his game than just being able to do "simple passes".  The other worry with Anita is when we don't have the ball, we look wide open.

[Foluwashola]

"Nothing player" is pointlessly harsh like.

 

I am not sure if it is though. He doesn't seem to excel in anything, but seems to avoid the same hatred Colback gets for doing the exact same thing. Just find it a bit baffling. Some players seem to get built right up without actually producing anything. Marveaux is another example of that. Anyway. I'll take it into his thread instead of clogging up this one.

 

Actually point made by his thread being way back on the third page. Nothing player I tells ya!

 

The 'with the right coaching' argument is frequently used to defend mediocrity, despite the players in question never displaying their apparent potential. But, Ajax.

[mrmojorisin75]

Anita needs to be playing when the the system has 3 in midfield like, I'd never have him in a version of 4-4-2.  Anyone who would needs their head read.

 

He's a player who could be very, very useful in the right system but if we're not going to play such a system it's pointless persevering with him tbh.

 

Colback shouldn't be starting in either system.

[Guest reefatoon]

Anita needs to be playing when the the system has 3 in midfield like, I'd never have him in a version of 4-4-2.  Anyone who would needs their head read.

 

He's a player who could be very, very useful in the right system but if we're not going to play such a system it's pointless persevering with him tbh.

 

Colback shouldn't be starting in either system.

 

Pretty much agree here.

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He offers nothing and is a waste of a shirt if we have to play other players around him to do all the work. It's not as if any of his passes are incisive, they are all "get shot to the nearest person as quick as possible" and that doesn't work with 2 in the middle.  Needs to offer so much more and he doesn't. Needs replaced with better.

 

Arguably most of our squad need 'replaced with better' but under the right coaching set up, I see a hell of a lot more potential improvement in Anita than the likes of Williamson, Gouffran, Riviere etc

 

He is already an improvement on those three knackers you mentioned, he isn't as bad as them, just a nothing player, someone you forget is even playing.

 

So you forgot he was playing so much, that you exclusively complain about his non-existent performance. And can talk about everything you didn't see, nice one.

 

This makes absolutely no sense, poor effort. Your midfield should be able to influence a game. He doesn't, you could go by huge chunks of the game and not even know he is on the pitch, which is right to complain about.

 

I'd argue he could quite possibly have a greater effect on influencing games if he's coached by competent people and in a system that is trying to play football.