Dave Posted February 15, 2016 Share Posted February 15, 2016 Can't really criticise McClaren for anything to do with recruitment, contracts or player sales then. He gets all the same excuses Pardew did. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darth Crooks Posted February 15, 2016 Share Posted February 15, 2016 No because they're both shit. Is why they need critcism. Just bad managers. Pardew thankfully was nowhere near and there's nothing to my mind to suggest the situation is vastly different. They've listened to the English players argument, arguably held by the coach and of a lot of fans and ran with it. Doesn't detract that Pardew and mcclaren are utter dinosaur wank. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darth Crooks Posted February 15, 2016 Share Posted February 15, 2016 The common denominator is always that they sacrifice quality of manager every time. They've thrown money at things this time and not addressed the elephant in the room, and yes to an extent, to doesn't have the tools to target the heights they were talking about at the start of the season. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted February 15, 2016 Share Posted February 15, 2016 5Live seem to have decided he's bad, everyone going for him on the phone-ins etc. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swissmag Posted February 15, 2016 Share Posted February 15, 2016 Yes, McClaren is fuckin awful...but as said by others before I cannot imagine that they would choose his successor well. Just take a look back at the Fat Man's appointments. Would love them to go for Rudi Garcia, but cannot see it happening within a hundred years :-( We are doomed Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pilko Posted February 15, 2016 Share Posted February 15, 2016 He'll take us down and then get the bullet IMO. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ankles Bennett Posted February 15, 2016 Share Posted February 15, 2016 In the old days managers had a bit of decency. If they knew they were failing they resigned and stepped aside to allow another manager to try and save the club. Nowadays, managers know they will forfeit their wacking great salary if they resign so they wait and wait until they are sacked. They have no regard to the fact that the fans who pay those wages are then left with a club they love languishing in the Championship or worse. The only way to ensure failing managers do the right thing and resign is to ensure all clubs pay up their managers contract in its entirety regardless of whether they resign or are sacked. That may have two outcomes. One, clubs will put managers on a rolling year by year contract, and two, the likes of Mc Laren won't keep hanging on waiting to be sacked. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted February 15, 2016 Share Posted February 15, 2016 Do you really think that's the reason? He probably won't resign just because he thinks he can do the job. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lush Vlad Posted February 15, 2016 Share Posted February 15, 2016 It will be like with England. He won't resign as he knows he'll get a golden handshake, once he gets the bullet. Can't say I blame him, I'm not sure how I would react in that situation. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted February 15, 2016 Share Posted February 15, 2016 I don't think I would give up on a job as quickly as this. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darth Crooks Posted February 15, 2016 Share Posted February 15, 2016 Being paid handsomely for being shit at something? I could do that. Be almost fun to test. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darth Crooks Posted February 15, 2016 Share Posted February 15, 2016 When people say he's a good coach what does that mean? Can put the cones out? Tell people about tactics? Doesn't seem specified. A managers role is very multifaceted buts very apparent what one is. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elliottman Posted February 15, 2016 Share Posted February 15, 2016 When people say he's a good coach what does that mean? Can put the cones out? Tell people about tactics? Doesn't seem specified. A managers role is very multifaceted buts very apparent what one is. I imagine it's things like designing drills, thinking of ways to make the sessions engaging and enjoyable, shit like that . Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
themanupstairs Posted February 15, 2016 Share Posted February 15, 2016 f***'s sake at first glance the proximity of this thread to the word "sacked" in the nonce thread title has fooled me twice now. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mattoon Posted February 15, 2016 Share Posted February 15, 2016 He's blatantly not going anywhere and they'll be relying on the 18 day break for any ire to subside rather than use the time effectively in developing a plan to avoid relegation, typical Ashley. We're dicing with the drop and it's nothing less than he deserves. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted February 15, 2016 Share Posted February 15, 2016 Can see at times we might do some decent passing and moving drills.... in our own half though. You see with a Pardew side or a Big Sam side - the players don't do much training with the ball. Possession play looks spontaneous. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Hog Posted February 15, 2016 Share Posted February 15, 2016 A few more rags coming out today as saying Schteve could be out if we fail at Stoke, I just don't the point at that stage. Sacking him anything later than this current 18 day break would be pointless, no potential incoming manager would be able to turn things around in the remaining time after Stoke. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mattoon Posted February 15, 2016 Share Posted February 15, 2016 A few more rags coming out today as saying Schteve could be out if we fail at Stoke, I just don't the point at that stage. Sacking him anything later than this current 18 day break would be pointless, no potential incoming manager would be able to turn things around in the remaining time after Stoke. It's almost like a battered wife, having been beaten by her spouse 20 times in the last year claiming her husband has one more chance to make things right. It's not gonna happen, you know what he's like now, why put yourself through further torment, ffs. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Posted February 15, 2016 Share Posted February 15, 2016 I'm genuinely surprised he's not received any stick from the stands. Strange given I think that if sufficient pressure were to be placed on him he'd f*** off. I guess this is the reason why. From NUFC.com The lack of rage directed towards McClaren is a sign of fans becoming resigned to their fate, mirroring the indifference of many players. Repeat watching of this dross does eventually break your spirit. Genuine anger at our plight isn't to be found in the stands, with tickets taken by stoics, pisspots and lunatics. Ranting malcontents have stood aside, to be replaced by increasing numbers of young lads, daft enough to turn out at this time for those prices. Which, of course, is exactly what MA and his cronies want. Full enough stands of accepting customers who aren't willing to voice complaint at the sub-standard product on offer. Those who would have gone or simply don't care enough to do so anymore as they know it will fall on deaf ears. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lush Vlad Posted February 15, 2016 Share Posted February 15, 2016 A few more rags coming out today as saying Schteve could be out if we fail at Stoke, I just don't the point at that stage. Sacking him anything later than this current 18 day break would be pointless, no potential incoming manager would be able to turn things around in the remaining time after Stoke. It's almost like a battered wife, having been beaten by her spouse 20 times in the last year claiming her husband has one more chance to make things right. It's not gonna happen, you know what he's like now, why put yourself through further torment, ffs. Or it will be like WBA, where there were also rumours about him getting the sack if we lost. We play well, get a result. Then we just carry on with our shit form and nothing actually changes. We can't persevere with a manager, who can get a team to play decent attacking football at home, when everything falls right. Yet constantly get battered away from home. If we stick with him, we are basically gambling on winning enough games at home, to keep us up. He'll clearly still be in charge next season, if we stop up, which makes staying up seem a bit pointless. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nufcjb Posted February 15, 2016 Share Posted February 15, 2016 I'm a bit more confident that Ashley will sack this bag of patatoes compared to Ashley sacking Pardew. All because of the fat bastard's greed for the new tv money. He's going to do it but hoping he does it quickly before anymore defeats and it's too late. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted February 15, 2016 Share Posted February 15, 2016 Ashley just appointed this guy on a long contract, appointed him to the board and signed players for him. Seems incredibly unlikely he'll be sacked any time soon. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
loki679 Posted February 15, 2016 Share Posted February 15, 2016 Ashley just appointed this guy on a long contract, appointed him to the board and signed players for him. Seems incredibly unlikely he'll be sacked any time soon. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Banaloona Posted February 15, 2016 Share Posted February 15, 2016 Even though Pardew's tenure was drab, with long losing streaks etc, at no point were we embedded in the bottom 3 at this stage of a season (albeit floating between 13th and 16th). For that alone McClaren needs sacking and I for one can see (hope) Ashley pulling the trigger. What I don't get though is why wait until after Stoke. As if one more game is going to condemn him, we've seen enough. He's dog turd. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NG32 Posted February 15, 2016 Share Posted February 15, 2016 Stick or twist mike, stick or twist. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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