AyeDubbleYoo Posted March 3, 2016 Share Posted March 3, 2016 I thought he'd be average but we would play better football and players wouldn't regress like they did under Pardew. Couldn't have imagined him being this bad. The spending has turned out to be a massive red herring as well... all our signings were punts in the style of old. The 'proven' PL players all have massive weaknesses of their own. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
loki679 Posted March 3, 2016 Share Posted March 3, 2016 We've had so many bad results away from home I can understand him shitting bricks and playing for the 0-0. Although on those same lines he then has no right to moan about being unlucky to lose 1-0. Regardless, I've become more convinced that in order for us to stay up he has to go. Time to get someone else in to have a go at getting these players to buy in. I still think the players / club are poisonous, but McClaren has failed. It's not a chicken and egg situation. We've had so many bad results away from home because he shits a brick and plays not to get beat and has done since he arrived. If the useless prick had any balls we'd play our game home and away but he hasn't. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueStar Posted March 3, 2016 Share Posted March 3, 2016 Well exactly. The excuse that we had to line up defensively because been twatted 5-1 by Chelsea in our last away match would be valid if we were twatted because we'd been gung-ho going forward. But Newcastle has never been gung-ho under McClaren, we've just been gung. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted March 3, 2016 Share Posted March 3, 2016 I thought he'd be average but we would play better football and players wouldn't regress like they did under Pardew. Couldn't have imagined him being this bad. The spending has turned out to be a massive red herring as well... all our signings were punts in the style of old. The 'proven' PL players all have massive weaknesses of their own. The proven premier league players aren't great or awful. The problem is we didn't address two of our most glaring weaknesses at the back and up front. If you can't defend and can't score it stands to reason you will have problems. McClaren has to shoulder the blame for that as well. His transfer activity has been as confused as his football direction. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elma Posted March 3, 2016 Share Posted March 3, 2016 I wanted Bilic in the summer and would take Moyes or Rodgers now. I think Moyes would do a good job long-term, although something tells me, maybe based on Keegan's style, that Rodgers and NUFC would be a good fit. Would take either of them in a snap at the moment, although Rodgers has said he'll look for work in the summer so may need a bucket of cash to persuade him. A lot less money than we'll lose by going down though so it's worth the approach in my opinion. Mind you, it'll never happen with Charnley there. If we remove McClaren then it'll be Nigel Pearson or someone similar. Despite squad imbalance and some criminal recruitment, the current squad is still good enough for 30-35 points by now and the reason I think the mackems are favourites to stay up (out of those on 24 points) is that Allardyce will bully performances out of their players. A Pearson or Moyes may get that response short term although Pearson long-term doesn't particularly fill me with excitement. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leazes_End_Mag Posted March 3, 2016 Share Posted March 3, 2016 If he stays, we're down. It's really that simple. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ads Posted March 3, 2016 Share Posted March 3, 2016 I was one of those who wasn't so downbeat upon hearing about his appointment. I gave him the benefit of the doubt but his time is up now. Get rid before it's too late. His insistence after every game that we have been 'unlucky' is fucking insulting. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
klay321 Posted March 3, 2016 Share Posted March 3, 2016 He has to go. Nothing is going right. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ankles Bennett Posted March 3, 2016 Share Posted March 3, 2016 We need a manager who will scare the sh@t out of the players if they fail to give 110% in every remaining game. The players will all be planning on moving on if we get relegated and they need to be told in no uncertain terms that they will not be sold if we are relegated and that they will be made to honour their contracts and will be expected to get the club promoted from the championship. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted March 3, 2016 Share Posted March 3, 2016 We need a manager who will scare the sh@t out of the players if they fail to give 110% in every remaining game. The players will all be planning on moving on if we get relegated and they need to be told in no uncertain terms that they will not be sold if we are relegated and that they will be made to honour their contracts and will be expected to get the club promoted from the championship. I agree in general terms, some of that will be tricky though. If they have release clauses for example, or if we actually want them off the wage bill in the event of relegation. Or if they're already leaving anyway. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SUPERTOON Posted March 3, 2016 Share Posted March 3, 2016 We need a manager who will scare the sh@t out of the players if they fail to give 110% in every remaining game. The players will all be planning on moving on if we get relegated and they need to be told in no uncertain terms that they will not be sold if we are relegated and that they will be made to honour their contracts and will be expected to get the club promoted from the championship. Our whole club is modelled on selling players, if anything the players already know that they are going to leave if we go down. It makes no difference to them what league we are in, if someone bids enough we will accept. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JH Posted March 3, 2016 Share Posted March 3, 2016 I maintain that we find a reputable out-of-work manager who has confidence in his own ability, and we ask them how much money in return for keeping us up. We get a new manager boost, hopefully with a bit of freedom and 'reigns loosened', they get into the shop window if they're looking for work and whatever we have to pay, is nothing compared to what we will lose if we drop into the Championship. It's easy really. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bowlingcrofty Posted March 3, 2016 Share Posted March 3, 2016 Lost 3-1 in a behind closed doors game with Hartlepool earlier in the week Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sugoinufc Posted March 3, 2016 Share Posted March 3, 2016 Time is up! Yesterday was like watching us under Pardew. Horrible football! He must go! How can we be THAT bad? ANTI football. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heake Posted March 3, 2016 Share Posted March 3, 2016 Itll get micey after the annual Mackems bumming IMO Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted March 3, 2016 Share Posted March 3, 2016 We need a manager who will scare the sh@t out of the players if they fail to give 110% in every remaining game. Ashley will be straight onto the phone to no nonsense Brit Nigel Pearson. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
B-more Mag Posted March 3, 2016 Share Posted March 3, 2016 Itll get micey after the annual Mackems bumming IMO Good idea. A rodent infestation is always a wake up call. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paully Posted March 3, 2016 Share Posted March 3, 2016 I posted this last month but for those who missed it............. "McClaren simply can’t set a team up away from home. It was his downfall with England. One goal and one point from Russia, Croatia and Israel away in qualifying. Or not qualifying as it turned out. At Boro there were two seasons in which his sides scored 12 (twelve) goals in 19 away league games. Twelve! His average away goals tally at Middelsborough was 17. In 19 games. It’s not good enough. Newcastle United’s major problem last season was our away form. We won just 3 out of 19 away games last season. Only QPR managed less. So who did Charnley and Carr hire to arrest this slump away from home? The man who’s away record in England at the highest level is a disaster. What a surprise we’re heading for relegation." http://www.true-faith.co.uk/match-preview-everton-v-newcastle-united-goodison-park-03feb16-ko-19-45-pm-premier-league/ Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kanj Posted March 3, 2016 Share Posted March 3, 2016 Pay Rafa a massive bonus to save us from relegation, pay him his normal rate in any case, then hire him full time going forward. If not, he walks away with good pay. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest chopey Posted March 3, 2016 Share Posted March 3, 2016 A Boro mate of mine said I would soon get sick of McLaren trying to put a positive spin on everything to the point where he has himself convinced Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
triggs Posted March 3, 2016 Share Posted March 3, 2016 Pay Rafa a massive bonus to save us from relegation, pay him his normal rate in any case, then hire him full time going forward. If not, he walks away with good pay. And his reputation fucked Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted March 3, 2016 Share Posted March 3, 2016 Still reeling from the fact we spent 12 days away coming up with last night's system. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kanj Posted March 3, 2016 Share Posted March 3, 2016 Pay Rafa a massive bonus to save us from relegation, pay him his normal rate in any case, then hire him full time going forward. If not, he walks away with good pay. And his reputation f***ed Rafa can just say "this newcastle team was shit, and that club is ran by a shithead" and he'd be cool. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ScottishMagpie Posted March 3, 2016 Share Posted March 3, 2016 This is worse than when the transfer window is open....keep popping on now and again in the completely stupid hope that there'll be a change to this thread heading saying he's been given the bullet. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zero Posted March 3, 2016 Share Posted March 3, 2016 The problem is, based on his comments, he GENUINELY think it was correct to park the bus and pray for miracle. Thats his approach for fighting this relegation battle. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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