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Tbh I took that as 18/20 people he sees as potential starters going forward not an 18/20 squad with no backups. Likely to be some players he doesn't rate/don't figure In his plans long term that we are looking to shift and younglings coming through. 

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been think about this, taking out the obvious shite (players we know are shite i mean, a la gouffran) this is what you're left with and it's 21 players....plenty won't be what mclaren does mind, i.e. i imagine he'll bin abeid and keep gouffran around, that type of bollocks:

 

GK - krul

GK - darlow

 

DF - colo

DF - haidara

DF - janmaat

DF - taylor

DF - dummet

DF - lascelles

DF - mbemba

 

MF - sissoko

MF - anita

MF - colback

MF - tiote

MF - abeid

MF - wijnaldim

 

FW/MF - cabella

FW/MF - de jong

FW/MF - aarons

FW/MF - perez

 

FW - cisse

FW - mitrovic

 

 

meaning we absolutely must bin ASAP:

willo

obertan

vuckic

riviere

bigi

marv

elliot

gouffran

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been think about this, taking out the obvious s**** (players we know are s**** i mean, a la gouffran) this is what you're left with and it's 21 players....plenty won't be what mclaren does mind, i.e. i imagine he'll bin abeid and keep gouffran around, that type of bollocks:

 

GK - krul

GK - darlow

 

DF - colo

DF - haidara

DF - janmaat

DF - taylor

DF - dummet

DF - lascelles

DF - mbemba

 

MF - sissoko

MF - anita

MF - colback

MF - tiote

MF - abeid

MF - wijnaldim

 

FW/MF - cabella

FW/MF - de jong

FW/MF - aarons

FW/MF - perez

 

FW - cisse

FW - mitrovic

 

 

meaning we absolutely must bin ASAP:

willo

obertan

vuckic

riviere

bigi

marv

elliot

gouffran

 

Bigi still doesn't take a squad place as he's U21 so still worth keeping I think.

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I'm hoping he means outfield players when he says 18 to 20. That leaves 22 players and the rest of his quote suggests he'll make a call on who will go out on loan and who will leave.

 

We've already shown a willingness to loan youngsters out rather than have them sitting around in case.

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Has anyone discussed the possibility that the likes off Gouffran, Obertan, Williamson have been getting so much friendly time precisely because they are the players that he doesn't rate and wants to see if they have any hope at all?

 

Hopefully Mr Shoemaker sorts out our voodoo injury crisis once and for all, which in that case wouldn't make a squad size of 20-22 too stretched.

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Think we could see something close to SM starting 11 today. Decent test against champions league opposition, if we can get an idea of coaching changes ect from any of the pre season games it will be this one.

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Has anyone discussed the possibility that the likes off Gouffran, Obertan, Williamson have been getting so much friendly time precisely because they are the players that he doesn't rate and wants to see if they have any hope at all?

 

Hopefully Mr Shoemaker sorts out our voodoo injury crisis once and for all, which in that case wouldn't make a squad size of 20-22 too stretched.

The flaw in that logic is he would have therefore sacrificed the possibility of greater team cohesion ahead of the season starting for the slim chance that any of these knackers might come good.

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I think virtually all of pre season has been about fitness. I think too much can be made of, "time to gel". Yes it's more crucial for defensive cohesion but hopefully it has been worked on in training.

 

We will see McClaren's intentions today, one or two aside.

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It's insane that Übercrap is still here. Should have been shot after his second season here (or first). That him and Gouffran weren't mentioned of being in danger of being axed is making me dislike McClaren already.

 

 

 

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Right now we have; GK; Elliot,Krul,Darlow, DEF;Janmaat;Mbemba,Taylor,Coloccini,Williamson,Lascelles,Good,Dummett,Haidara, Midfield; Kemen,Bigi,Abeid,Colback,Anita,Tiote,Wijnaldum,Cabella,Marveaux,Sissoko,De Jong,Gouffran,Obertan,Aarons,Vuckic Attack; Cisse, Mitrovic, Riviere, Ayoze

31 players, we should be losing maybe 3 or 4 not 11

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