Varadi Posted September 24, 2015 Share Posted September 24, 2015 Chelsea were one of the clubs linked with Sissoko too so this might actually be one of the games he pulls his finger out for. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy84 Posted September 24, 2015 Share Posted September 24, 2015 Think someone made the point last night but it's worth saying again that we can't even revert to shutting up shop and try to grind out a 0-0 or nick a 1-0 to build some confidence/momentum owed to the fact that defensively we are terrible. In fact that's pretty much how he has tried to start the season and it hasn't worked. Can't attack, can't defend can't do any of the basics right. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
thenige Posted September 24, 2015 Share Posted September 24, 2015 Meh it's 8 games. We were shit before, signing a few players wasn't immediately going to reverse years of mismanagement, even if our part of our team looks half decent on paper. Very few of us thought he was the answer before so I don't really understand what's changed. Some of the players look like dead wood now. I just wish we'd got Tuchel when we have the slimmest of chances, but managing us really appears to be a mug's job. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TenkoDaLuz Posted September 24, 2015 Share Posted September 24, 2015 Don't sack this one yet. Oh good, this f***ing fool's back. F*** off you t***. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dokko Posted September 24, 2015 Share Posted September 24, 2015 I want to see from him: Mitrovic and Perez up top, Tiote protecting the back four with 3 form players in mid infront of him (ATM a choice of Aarons, winaldum, de Jong, Anita & Sissoko) and we might have some kind of formula that could win games. Seems smc is scared to play Perez and Aarons, doesn't like two up top, thinks he can motivate cisse to give a shit and insists Colback is his number one player. Until all of that changes we won't win a game this season. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr.Spaceman Posted September 24, 2015 Share Posted September 24, 2015 Don't sack this one yet. Oh good, this f***ing fool's back. F*** off you t***. http://media.giphy.com/media/ftXvsSyRzKXXG/giphy-facebook_s.jpg Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrmojorisin75 Posted September 24, 2015 Share Posted September 24, 2015 Dropping Sissoko wouldn't be bold, it would be idiotic. Even if you think he doesn't care, he still does more than the rest of our players bar Janmaat in an attacking sense Laughable stuff, he produces nothing*. We're at the point where messages need sending from the management to the players. Colback and Sissoko are untouchable yet they produce nothing. Get Aarons in if he's fit, Perez in with Mitrovic. Keep Thauvin cause he's at least trying stuff and is new to the league, same for Wijnaldum and Mbemba. The rest can get fucked. *he'll clearly have a good game now mind. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
54 Posted September 24, 2015 Share Posted September 24, 2015 If McClaren we're to resign, would people respect him more then if he were to on and try and sort the issues out? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gallowgate Toon Posted September 24, 2015 Share Posted September 24, 2015 I don't understand what's going on at all. Having seen every minute of every game bar the Man U draw, something happened at West Ham that's just sucked away any progress that had been made. There was tangible progress, we looked more confident, the crowd was behind the team. Last night was awful to watch in the ground. Everybody was just nervous from the first minute. I think he's tried to set us up to sit and not press too much, but we're just way beyond the pace. Even the pace of a second string championship side. We're still playing the same s**** formation, the only difference being Anita coming to split the centre halves when we don't have the ball. McClaren worried me for the first time last night. He looked visibly exasperated and panicked at half time, wasted two changes doing something he should've done before the game started and then he had no way of changing things after the goal went in. Just like the Watford game, Wednesday weren't even playing well. We didn't give them anything to deal with. I think he might walk sooner rather than later. Just a mad situation to be in. We didn't even get the new manager bounce. It all went downhill when he tried to open up our shape, tbh. We played higher against West Ham and got decimated at the back because our defensive spine couldn't handle it. Despite the signs being somewhat slightly positive before, that result just seemed to plunge everyone into a state of utter depression and panic. A couple of shit games later and it's literally a massive crisis. Has anything ever collapsed this fast? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest firetotheworks Posted September 24, 2015 Share Posted September 24, 2015 If McClaren we're to resign, would people respect him more then if he were to on and try and sort the issues out? Almost certainly if it was because of Ashley etc. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gallowgate Toon Posted September 24, 2015 Share Posted September 24, 2015 TBH as long as he shakes them up I'm well past debating who are the right players to pick. Just needs to get them motivated somehow. Everyone's a much of a muchness, really, it all comes down to who's actually going to dig in and show some character when they play. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hanshithispantz Posted September 24, 2015 Share Posted September 24, 2015 I don't get the Sissoko hate like, he was class at the weekend and along with Janmaat was responsible for the only period of the season where we've actually looked semi-dangerous. He's massively hit and miss like, especially on the wing. I don't even think it matters like (if he plays or not, or anyone else for that matter), our squad on the whole is shit, our manager is shit, our coaching staff are probably shit. We're going to get bummed senseless off a shit Chelsea side. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrmojorisin75 Posted September 24, 2015 Share Posted September 24, 2015 TBH as long as he shakes them up I'm well past debating who are the right players to pick. Just needs to get them motivated somehow. Everyone's a much of a muchness, really, it all comes down to who's actually going to dig in and show some character when they play. This is it. People need dropping for the greater good. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted September 24, 2015 Share Posted September 24, 2015 Sissoko created our only 2 real chances against Watford. The Cisse miss and the goal. Let's bench him then. LOL. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrmojorisin75 Posted September 24, 2015 Share Posted September 24, 2015 Sissoko created our only 2 real chances against Watford. The Cisse miss and the goal. Let's bench him then. LOL. there's such a thing as the greater good, because he sporadically creates the odd chance in a sea of shit it doesn't mean he's the best thing for the team overall tbh against chelsea and citeh i'd probably not drop him on reflection but they have to be his last chances to put in a game influencing performance imo, if he can't do it then he should get to fuck back 5 thauvin sissoko wijnaldum aarons perez mitrovic we've got to change something man, he's been playing the same players and formation for months and funnily enough changing neither is not working Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted September 24, 2015 Share Posted September 24, 2015 I would be genuinely shocked if Sissoko & Wijnaldum could play in CM 2 together. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mole_Toonfan Posted September 24, 2015 Share Posted September 24, 2015 I would be genuinely shocked if Sissoko & Wijnaldum could play in CM 2 together. I think they could if we actually pressed as a team, but coaching that into the players would take time and even if the coaches had the nous to pull it off it's something you teach the players during pre season and not after an abysmal start bordering on crisis. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
triggs Posted September 24, 2015 Share Posted September 24, 2015 Sissoko created our only 2 real chances against Watford. The Cisse miss and the goal. Let's bench him then. LOL. there's such a thing as the greater good, because he sporadically creates the odd chance in a sea of shit it doesn't mean he's the best thing for the team overall tbh against chelsea and citeh i'd probably not drop him on reflection but they have to be his last chances to put in a game influencing performance imo, if he can't do it then he should get to fuck back 5 thauvin sissoko wijnaldum aarons perez mitrovic we've got to change something man, he's been playing the same players and formation for months and funnily enough changing neither is not working What is the greater good? Leaving everything up to Janmaat to create? Wijnaldum, Colback, Thauvin should all be dropped before Sissoko based on performances Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Posted September 24, 2015 Share Posted September 24, 2015 If McClaren we're to resign, would people respect him more then if he were to on and try and sort the issues out? If he resigned I'd stop thinking about him again. Newcastle managers are unsackable, so he'll never ever resign. Last night was the next five or so years. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KaKa Posted September 24, 2015 Share Posted September 24, 2015 Remember the disparaging article claiming Garde didn't get how big the club was, and was asking about art galleries? Good old Steve knew the club and the responsibility required though ... yeah. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kanj Posted September 24, 2015 Share Posted September 24, 2015 If McClaren we're to resign, would people respect him more then if he were to on and try and sort the issues out? Almost certainly if it was because of Ashley etc. I couldn't give a fuck about respecting him at this point, he's doomed and set to fail IMO, if he hasn't already. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gallowgate Toon Posted September 24, 2015 Share Posted September 24, 2015 I would be genuinely shocked if Sissoko & Wijnaldum could play in CM 2 together. I think they could if we actually pressed as a team, but coaching that into the players would take time and even if the coaches had the nous to pull it off it's something you teach the players during pre season and not after an abysmal start bordering on crisis. Don't really think we've got the players to press high at all. Too weak at the back and susceptible to longer balls. I think they could play together, if they showed any defensive appetite for the game. Sissoko defends selectively and Wijnaldum is adapting. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wallsendmag Posted September 24, 2015 Share Posted September 24, 2015 Remember the disparaging article claiming Garde didn't get how big the club was, and was asking about art galleries? Good old Steve knew the club and the responsibility required though ... yeah. Good old Steve had just been sacked by a lower league club and was the cheap option. Ring any bells? Thing is if he takes us down he will turn into a very expensive appointment which will cost in excess of £100m. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KaKa Posted September 24, 2015 Share Posted September 24, 2015 I think what makes the whole thing absolutely sickening is the fact Garde was free at the time, and although he had planned to take the season off, I'm sure he could have been convinced otherwise if we really went for it. Even more sickening is the fact we then waited until the summer, when he would have then been ready to come aboard, and then we go and get McClaren then. Just shambolic stuff. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted September 24, 2015 Share Posted September 24, 2015 I would be genuinely shocked if Sissoko & Wijnaldum could play in CM 2 together. I think they could if we actually pressed as a team, but coaching that into the players would take time and even if the coaches had the nous to pull it off it's something you teach the players during pre season and not after an abysmal start bordering on crisis. Don't really think we've got the players to press high at all. Too weak at the back and susceptible to longer balls. I think they could play together, if they showed any defensive appetite for the game. Sissoko defends selectively and Wijnaldum is adapting. I'm not far from thinking we should give it a go. But I just can't see it working. Sissoko is too undisciplined defensively. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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