Steve McClaren

[jdckelly]

If McLaren were to be sacked or resign, realistically where would Liar Charnley go for the next permanent manager / head coach?  It's not even October and we look adrift.  We can't afford another clown at the helm.  We need some stability and confidence.  Can we get it from McClaren?

this will sound kinda daft but it wouldn't surprise me if they tried for Allerdyce in that scenario, the prem moneys going up massively again next year (I think) so more than usual its essential to the club hierarchy to avoid relegation and I partly think Allerdyce's ego would love the idea of ashley crawling back to him and he can charge whatever wages he feels like because of how desperate they'll be.

[mrmojorisin75]

They'll be waiting until Rodgers gets sacked.

[Dave]

McClaren is in no danger whatsoever like. In fact the biggest risk to his job is being too honest about the pile of shit he's taken over.

[mrmojorisin75]

i concur, same for rodgers by all accounts

[AY]

It really is laughable how badly we are attacking. De Jong and Gini are not making themselves free for a pass at all. No one is running behind. If false 9 comes deep then someone should be making runs behind for the space left by the centerhalf. De Jong, Gini and Perez should be moving freely from left to right and changing positions, making runs behind. Our play is ridiciously static. And what is the point of possession football if you don't press at all when you lose the ball. Your midfield will be all over the place and team like Watford ffs murder us on the break.

 

Can't really recall any NUFC team in the last 10 years to have any kind of pressing  (Gegenpressing..)

[sempuki]

http://www.chroniclelive.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/ex-manchester-united-star-phil-10131072

[TRC]

SMc: "We have a philosophy and we are sticking to it. We will go through painful times but when we get it right, it will be good."

 

SMc: "We are changing a lot - philosophy, culture, standards, training and style. It's necessary."

[GM]

SMc: "We have a philosophy and we are sticking to it. We will go through painful times but when we get it right, it will be good."

 

SMc: "We are changing a lot - philosophy, culture, standards, training and style. It's necessary."

 

Be fair. If a new guy comes in, changes the team philosophy, and then sticks to it - that's not being inconsistent. It's maybe daft, but it's not a contradiction, like you seem to be suggesting.

[TRC]

I don't think we have a philosophy, I think he's just making it up as he goes along to be honest.

[DJ_NUFC]

Losing is a difficult philosophy to break. And very easy to do it consistently.

[Ankles Bennett]

I don't think we have a philosophy, I think he's just making it up as he goes along to be honest.

I agree he's just like Pardew dumbing down the expectations so he doesn't look inadequate.

[Paully]

http://www.express.co.uk/sport/football/608023/Steve-McClaren-Newcastle-Chelsea-Premier-League-Louis-van-Gaal-Manchester-United

[Unbelievable]

"We have one here and we are sticking to it, and we know if we do the process right and we go through painful times, which we have to, when it gets right, it will be very good."

 

We have to go through painful times do we now?

[Yorkie]

Well yeah,  we're in one aren't we.

[Guest chicken little]

haha i would be interested to see a verbatim transcript of his post-match interview. pure stream-of-consciousness nothingness.

 

placed it:

 

http://i.imgur.com/5zFqmUX.jpg

 

"mmmm... hard work, isn't it? hmm. we knew it was going to be hard job. philosophy. big job. knew it'd be hard work. have to just keep on doing the job. keep working hard. marvellous."

[Parky]

[Alberto2005]

Still haven't given up hope on McClaren.

[BONTEMPI]

Still haven't given up hope on McClaren.

 

If after another 5-6 games we've seen no improvement in any area, what would you think then?

[Alberto2005]

Still haven't given up hope on McClaren.

 

If after another 5-6 games we've seen no improvement in any area, what would you think then?

I'm happy to wait till Christmas.

 

We're only 6/7 games in to the season. I think his team selection has been reasonably good so far compared to super Alan.

 

I'm happy it seems he endorses passing football, despite our play been woeful at times and lacking any threat.

 

I know that sounds incredibly worrying, but to go through the shit Pardew/Carver served up to football played properly will take time.

 

My main concern has been the lack of involvement of Perez and Aarons. I think both should be automatic starters, especially Ayoze.

 

The biggest problem is with Ashley, he needs to go because the vibe at the club is completely shot until he does.

 

I don't think McClaren is s bad manager personally, nor a very good one, but I'm happy to give him time considering there won't be better options available.

 

I might be wrong but it seems a lot of people who were saying he was a half decent manager are now saying he's shit after 6 games.

 

I couldn't ever accept anyone claiming Pardew to be a good manager after he stuff he did here, but I think with McClaren you can see he understands the game and I'd have expected people to be a bit more patient, but there you go.

[Collage]

Yeah, I agree, kind of. We've been poor so far but it would be daft to expect an instant turnaround. It can't go on like this much longer though, obviously. We need a couple of good results ASAP.

[mrmojorisin75]

What concerns me about him is how much he's getting wrong this early on. Usually a new manager comes in and can see most of the issues at a club, then changes things in order to rectify it. You might go through some bad times while everyone readjusts but you feel like you're heading in the right direction.

 

We most definitely feel like we're heading in the right direction atm, indeed any direction, and all the while he's fucking up selections, formations and tactics literally every single game.

[STM]

What concerns me about him is how much he's getting wrong this early on. Usually a new manager comes in and can see most of the issues at a club, then changes things in order to rectify it. You might go through some bad times while everyone readjusts but you feel like you're heading in the right direction.

 

We most definitely feel like we're heading in the right direction atm, indeed any direction, and all the while he's fucking up selections, formations and tactics literally every single game.

 

I just don't see this. Does the modern day football fan expect a manager to pick exactly the side he wants, player for player?

 

We have lost, therefore any defence of the manager is futile but it's worth pointing out that we had a far better 11 on paper than Watford and probably a better one than West Ham.

 

I've seen little wrong with team selections or tactics. Motivation or discipline perhaps but our selections have been ok.

 

There's more to it, leadership is our biggest problem.

[mrmojorisin75]

What concerns me about him is how much he's getting wrong this early on. Usually a new manager comes in and can see most of the issues at a club, then changes things in order to rectify it. You might go through some bad times while everyone readjusts but you feel like you're heading in the right direction.

 

We most definitely feel like we're heading in the right direction atm, indeed any direction, and all the while he's fucking up selections, formations and tactics literally every single game.

 

I just don't see this. Does the modern day football fan expect a manager to pick exactly the side he wants, player for player?

 

We have lost, therefore any defence of the manager is futile but it's worth pointing out that we had a far better 11 on paper than Watford and probably a better one than West Ham.

 

I've seen little wrong with team selections or tactics. Motivation or discipline perhaps but our selections have been ok.

 

There's more to it, leadership is our biggest problem.

Hm, it's a question that can't be answered really. Are things not working because of who is in the side, who is not in the side, or because there are deep rooted motivational and disciplinary issues in the club?

 

Even if it's the latter he's still getting it wrong imo in continuing to pick the same chumps week in week out.

 

Of course no one expects the manager to pick 'their' side but we're approaching game 7 in the league today and McLaren still isn't automatically starting Perez for instance. Literally everyone else knows Perez has to start.

[TRon]

Yeah, I agree, kind of. We've been poor so far but it would be daft to expect an instant turnaround. It can't go on like this much longer though, obviously. We need a couple of good results ASAP.

What concerns me isn't so much the results or formations, more the lack of fight or urgency shown by a lot of the players so far. They don't exactly look like that are going to run through brick walls for him.

 

[STM]

What concerns me about him is how much he's getting wrong this early on. Usually a new manager comes in and can see most of the issues at a club, then changes things in order to rectify it. You might go through some bad times while everyone readjusts but you feel like you're heading in the right direction.

 

We most definitely feel like we're heading in the right direction atm, indeed any direction, and all the while he's fucking up selections, formations and tactics literally every single game.

 

I just don't see this. Does the modern day football fan expect a manager to pick exactly the side he wants, player for player?

 

We have lost, therefore any defence of the manager is futile but it's worth pointing out that we had a far better 11 on paper than Watford and probably a better one than West Ham.

 

I've seen little wrong with team selections or tactics. Motivation or discipline perhaps but our selections have been ok.

 

There's more to it, leadership is our biggest problem.

Hm, it's a question that can't be answered really. Are things not working because of who is in the side, who is not in the side, or because there are deep rooted motivational and disciplinary issues in the club?

 

Even if it's the latter he's still getting it wrong imo in continuing to pick the same chumps week in week out.

 

Of course no one expects the manager to pick 'their' side but we're approaching game 7 in the league today and McLaren still isn't automatically starting Perez for instance. Literally everyone else knows Perez has to start.

 

Fair play on Perez and Colback who is the weakest link IMO. However I believe his team selections have been fine. We have also tried to pass it around, which is encouraging.

 

As you say, his biggest mistake is sticking with the personalities who are letting him down. The first two being Cisse and Sissoko.

 

Give Janmaat the armband and put De Jong on the pitch who is prepared to talk.

 

I like McClaren, I won't deny it. He and his coaching staff are honest and trying to do the right things. I think he needs to be harder on the players.