Guest chopey Posted October 27, 2015 Share Posted October 27, 2015 The pressure was eased after the Norwich result but it's back on now, McLaren won't go but a few players will. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
themanupstairs Posted October 27, 2015 Share Posted October 27, 2015 I'm loath to get into a prolonged defence of a manager everyone hates mind. Ian W don't roll like dat Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
HawK Posted October 27, 2015 Share Posted October 27, 2015 I'm loath to get into a prolonged defence of a manager everyone hates mind. Ian W don't roll like dat Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nobody Posted October 27, 2015 Share Posted October 27, 2015 No chance we're sacking McClaren, man. In your opinion obviously. imo I think we will. Think Jabba will act if we look like getting cast adrift. He won't risk the wonga on offer at the end of the season. They won't sack him, not a chance, they'll spend in January to try and buy their way out of it. Imperative we get 10-12 points between now and the start of January to give us a chance of getting out, not impossible imo. Only thing a new manager could do at this point iyam would be to shut up shop completely and try to 0-0 and 1-0 us to January but I'm highly doubtful anyone is good enough to succeed at that with the shit in our midfield and defence. Agree. While I didn't want him in the summer, I think it'd be a very bad idea to sack him now. He's starting to look like he might know how to get us to perform to a decent level. Think we'll pick up some points in the upcoming weeks. It's such a shame that we took so fucking long to get our coaching staff sorted as well as having a pre season planned by a complete idiot so we more or less had to forfeit the first 6 games while McClaren and his coaching staff got to know his team. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy Posted October 27, 2015 Share Posted October 27, 2015 I genuinely think the football is improving. We were a horror show at the start of the season, but we played some great stuff yesterday, against Man City in the first half, against Chelsea in the first half and for the majority of the Norwich game. We can't forget that McClaren is undoing years of Pardew's coaching and mindset. Our passing and movement is already lightyears ahead of where we were under Pardew, it's just going to take time, but the signs are good. A couple of wins out of the next four will make things look and feel better. I can't deny that the defence look shoddy, but we look more cohesive as an attacking unit I pretty much agree with all of this. I'm not his biggest fan by any means and the results haven't been good enough so far, but there are definitely signs that we're playing with a bit more intent and at the very least that's encouraging. I feel more inclined to watch this Newcastle team than I did Pardew's and Carver's, we just need to start getting some points on the board. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted October 27, 2015 Share Posted October 27, 2015 A part of me wants to see some more of that football we played in the first half. But a lot of me thinks we'll rarely face a worse side then Sunderland on the ball and even then we didn't really create much. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted October 27, 2015 Share Posted October 27, 2015 I'm loath to get into a prolonged defence of a manager everyone hates mind. Ian W don't roll like dat Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted October 27, 2015 Share Posted October 27, 2015 I genuinely think the football is improving. We were a horror show at the start of the season, but we played some great stuff yesterday, against Man City in the first half, against Chelsea in the first half and for the majority of the Norwich game. We can't forget that McClaren is undoing years of Pardew's coaching and mindset. Our passing and movement is already lightyears ahead of where we were under Pardew, it's just going to take time, but the signs are good. A couple of wins out of the next four will make things look and feel better. I can't deny that the defence look shoddy, but we look more cohesive as an attacking unit I pretty much agree with all of this. I'm not his biggest fan by any means and the results haven't been good enough so far, but there are definitely signs that we're playing with a bit more intent and at the very least that's encouraging. I feel more inclined to watch this Newcastle team than I did Pardew's and Carver's, we just need to start getting some points on the board. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kanj Posted October 27, 2015 Share Posted October 27, 2015 I don't disagree with many on here in regards to our playing style / positives and for one thing I respect McClaren the coach and man and I clearly see he's trying to bring in change, encourage the team to play, instill a level of professionalism etc. He's clearly giving his all to be successful here but I can't help but think he's still not the right man for this job and he's been let down by the lack of discipline in his players, gutless performances, weak spine and bottom line - on the wrong end of the PL table. Results have not been where we need them to be and for that - I'm still in the boat that he and many others on the board need to be sacked. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mattoon Posted October 27, 2015 Share Posted October 27, 2015 I don't disagree with many on here in regards to our playing style / positives and for one thing I respect McClaren the coach and man and I clearly see he's trying to bring in change, encourage the team to play, instill a level of professionalism etc. He's clearly giving his all to be successful here but I can't help but think he's still not the right man for this job and he's been let down by the lack of discipline in his players, gutless performances, weak spine and bottom line - on the wrong end of the PL table. Results have not been where we need them to be and for that - I'm still in the boat that he and many others on the board need to be sacked. In an ideal world Kanji, yes mate 100% wholeheartedly agree with you, set fire to the fucker and start again. But this is Ashley's world and a change in management won't bring about change in the way the club is run, it'll be a like for like swap. When calling for Pardew's head I saw a lot of people giving it the "no point, nothing will change" and "it'll just be some other knacker, who's probably worse.". We all knew that would be the case but with that slimy prick in charge I really didn't like anything about the club anymore bar some of the fans, mostly on here tbf. Now at least there is some connection back with the club, it's far away from being ideal but it's also far away from Pardew. So whilst I agree in theory, give me this over another Pardew any day, and no things probably wouldn't change if we binned him off and Charney and Co because we all know who the real problem is and he won't try it differently. Fwiw if we're cut adrift by Christmas I reckon McClaren will walk anyway, at least he knows when he's up against it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kanj Posted October 27, 2015 Share Posted October 27, 2015 Don't disagree with you mate. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted October 27, 2015 Share Posted October 27, 2015 No chance we're sacking McClaren, man. In your opinion obviously. imo I think we will. If McClaren is called in to be grilled by Ashley about the poor results, I would imagine that he would just say it's because he hasn't been allowed to buy the defenders that we require. If the story is true that he wanted to bring in a big vocal centre back but was told that would be too expensive so instead handed Colo a contract extension, then the fault lies with Ashley and Charnley. I don't see how sacking McClaren is going to plug the holes in the defence. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
George Bailey Posted October 27, 2015 Share Posted October 27, 2015 No chance we're sacking McClaren, man. In your opinion obviously. imo I think we will. If McClaren is called in to be grilled by Ashley about the poor results, I would imagine that he would just say it's because he hasn't been allowed to buy the defenders that we require. If the story is true that he wanted to bring in a big vocal centre back but was told that would be too expensive so instead handed Colo a contract extension, then the fault lies with Ashley and Charnley. I don't see how sacking McClaren is going to plug the holes in the defence. 100% in agreement on that. Yet still he decided to take the job, knowing full well our CH are not good enough. Shows a weakness from the off for me, so I have no sympathy with him at all on that matter. He obviously felt confident, comfortable or just wanted the job so much that even with the idea of Colofuckwit, Taylor, Williamson and Mbemba being our choices he decided to not push it...weak and a failure for me. Maybe he has now had assurances that that commanding, experienced, CH (and others LB, DM) are to be bought in Jan? Who knows... Wouldn't be like this lot to back down imo though. I want him to succeed, never not wanted any NUFC manager not too succeed (have hated some, adored some and been meh about many)...I just think he is not inspirational. talented, driven or frankly good enough for to get the best out of this group of players. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted October 27, 2015 Share Posted October 27, 2015 No chance we're sacking McClaren, man. In your opinion obviously. imo I think we will. If McClaren is called in to be grilled by Ashley about the poor results, I would imagine that he would just say it's because he hasn't been allowed to buy the defenders that we require. If the story is true that he wanted to bring in a big vocal centre back but was told that would be too expensive so instead handed Colo a contract extension, then the fault lies with Ashley and Charnley. I don't see how sacking McClaren is going to plug the holes in the defence. 100% in agreement on that. Yet still he decided to take the job, knowing full well our CH are not good enough. Shows a weakness from the off for me, so I have no sympathy with him at all on that matter. He obviously felt confident, comfortable or just wanted the job so much that even with the idea of Colofuckwit, Taylor, Williamson and Mbemba being our choices he decided to not push it...weak and a failure for me. Maybe he has now had assurances that that commanding, experienced, CH (and others LB, DM) are to be bought in Jan? Who knows... Wouldn't be like this lot to back down imo though. I want him to succeed, never not wanted any NUFC manager not too succeed (have hated some, adored some and been meh about many)...I just think he is not inspirational. talented, driven or frankly good enough for to get the best out of this group of players. I'm just saying that the club could hardly sack McClaren if they are the reason we don't have the quality of defenders required to ensure premiership survival. What would be the point? The next manager is also going to have to plug the same holes in defence using over the hill or substandard defenders. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJ_NUFC Posted October 27, 2015 Share Posted October 27, 2015 It's shocking to me that Pardew, Carver and now McClaren couldn't convince the board to get an entire new defensive line. Actually, why am I shocked? It's what happens when you hire sycophants and yes-men who're happy to tug at the owner's scrotum while having their tongues lodged firmly up his anus. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted October 27, 2015 Share Posted October 27, 2015 We need midfielders more than defenders IMO. Although both would be nice. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
George Bailey Posted October 27, 2015 Share Posted October 27, 2015 Less shocked at Pardew and Carver, but for me this should have been non negotiable from McClaren. Obvious to all in football we are shit in this dept..Oh we have the 'numbers' but they are all tripe. or in the case of Chamcel an unknown qualtity about to be tripified by osmosis from the other tripe surrounding him. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
George Bailey Posted October 27, 2015 Share Posted October 27, 2015 We need midfielders more than defenders IMO. Although both would be nice. Other way round for me. we have one right back, one unproven CH and one unproven young LB... The rest are varying grades of shit, shitter and the shittiest ever. Midfield, centrally is poor and needs upgrading, no arguement but our defence is the worst in years. Including the keepers. one good. rest unproven or shit...and fat...and an arse licking cunt t'boot. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJ_NUFC Posted October 27, 2015 Share Posted October 27, 2015 Can't wait to see Mbemba start with Willo when / if Colo is ruled out. We may even see the halcyon pairing of Taylor and Willo if we keep our defensive disciplinary record going. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kanj Posted October 27, 2015 Share Posted October 27, 2015 Our spine is lacking from GK (currently) to partner for Mbemba, to our non-existent CM. Need experienced on-loan GK, partner for Mbemba, a CM who can allow Gini to move central. and then we finally flow well to Mitro + Perez. CB, CM, LB, backup RB are immediate needs. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wallsendmag Posted October 29, 2015 Share Posted October 29, 2015 Hi *****, Sunday's derby defeat hurt us all and every one of us is sorry that we couldn't deliver you the victory you deserved. I am certain that if it hadn't been for Colo's sending off, we would have delivered you that victory. But with the news of our successful appeal, we draw a line under that match-defining moment and focus on recreating the positives of the minutes that went before. Even if you didn't see the game on Sunday, you'll know that we bossed it in the first half and hardly gave our hosts a kick. With ten men on the pitch we were still the stronger side for large parts of the second half, despite what the score line suggests. We kept attacking the game and that meant gaps opened up that our opponents were able to exploit. In spite of the result, training this week has been nothing but positive and preparation has been first class. There's been no feeling sorry for ourselves. Just a group of players and staff who want to show you how passionately we care about your club. We'll put all of the positives and the passion into delivering you three points on Saturday. Over the season so far I’ve seen real improvement in our game, particularly over the last month. Our bond and blend as a team gets more solid with every game and the mood in the camp is very optimistic, regardless of our current position in the table. I’m confident we can take the best of our performances to date and start turning them into points. Stoke have been on a decent run of late and I certainly didn't see their home defeat to Watford coming. I know Mark Hughes well and he will see that as a huge disappointment. They'll be especially keen to put on a show this weekend and make up for that loss. That makes it even more imperative that we're on our game and able to stand up to anything the likes of Bojan and Shaqiri might throw at us. We're prepared and ready. Sadly we won't have Jack Colback in our line-up this weekend after the results of a further scan on his right knee today. Unfortunately this injury, which was sustained at the Stadium of Light on Sunday, will see him out for up to six weeks and we all wish Jack the very best in his recovery. Be assured that in spite of the events of the past week, we go into this weekend's game with nothing but belief, spirit and total determination to reward your loyalty and support with the three points you deserve. Steve Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sima Posted October 29, 2015 Share Posted October 29, 2015 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrmojorisin75 Posted October 29, 2015 Share Posted October 29, 2015 Exactly. Reading them you can barely tell if they're real or a parody. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ndegwa Posted October 30, 2015 Share Posted October 30, 2015 bossed it Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrmojorisin75 Posted October 30, 2015 Share Posted October 30, 2015 Shearer on the money about these emails mind Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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