astraguy Posted December 29, 2015 Share Posted December 29, 2015 Can't believe this fool is still in charge Club will never fucking learn Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExiledGeordie Posted December 30, 2015 Share Posted December 30, 2015 Taking us down...... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heron Posted December 30, 2015 Share Posted December 30, 2015 Tbh 90% of the managers who would want to manage us under Ashley would have failed equally. The Ashley poison is so deep rooted it's now in the dressing room and changes are required from top to bottom. Relegation will initiate a clear out of the bottom, staying down will hopefully initiate a clear out at the top. Such a shame that this is what it will take for us to rid NUFC of this cancer Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Howaythetoon Posted December 30, 2015 Share Posted December 30, 2015 No manager with ambitions would ever come near us. We would get a Curbishley or someone from the lower leagues. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heron Posted December 30, 2015 Share Posted December 30, 2015 I don't really want to get into hounding McClaren out 'cause for me, we did that with Pardew and we got Carver. The cunt at the top is the issue. I doubt we'll get owt better than McClaren now whilst Fatty McTwatty is the owner Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darth Crooks Posted December 30, 2015 Share Posted December 30, 2015 FattyMcTwattyOut.com Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heron Posted December 30, 2015 Share Posted December 30, 2015 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrmojorisin75 Posted December 30, 2015 Share Posted December 30, 2015 I don't really want to get into hounding McClaren out 'cause for me, we did that with Pardew and we got Carver. The cunt at the top is the issue. I doubt we'll get owt better than McClaren now whilst Fatty McTwatty is the owner Hm. There comes a point, as there did with Pardew, that a manager's shitness can not and no longer should be tolerated regardless of the consequences of ousting him. I'd say McClaren isn't miles away from that, a couple of heavy defeats in the next few games Inc a cup exit and he's got to go. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mattoon Posted December 30, 2015 Share Posted December 30, 2015 I don't really want to get into hounding McClaren out 'cause for me, we did that with Pardew and we got Carver. The cunt at the top is the issue. I doubt we'll get owt better than McClaren now whilst Fatty McTwatty is the owner Hm. There comes a point, as there did with Pardew, that a manager's shitness can not and no longer should be tolerated regardless of the consequences of ousting him. I'd say McClaren isn't miles away from that, a couple of heavy defeats in the next few games Inc a cup exit and he's got to go. There are varying degrees of shit and until Ashley goes we will always be shit it's just once a manager reaches a certain point you're just flogging a dead horse into oblivion. As you say a few more heavy defeats and out of the cup at the first hurdle and you've got to think we'd be better off without him. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darth Crooks Posted December 30, 2015 Share Posted December 30, 2015 I don't really want to get into hounding McClaren out 'cause for me, we did that with Pardew and we got Carver. The cunt at the top is the issue. I doubt we'll get owt better than McClaren now whilst Fatty McTwatty is the owner Hm. There comes a point, as there did with Pardew, that a manager's shitness can not and no longer should be tolerated regardless of the consequences of ousting him. I'd say McClaren isn't miles away from that, a couple of heavy defeats in the next few games Inc a cup exit and he's got to go. There are varying degrees of shit and until Ashley goes we will always be shit it's just once a manager reaches a certain point you're just flogging a dead horse into oblivion. As you say a few more heavy defeats and out of the cup at the first hurdle and you've got to think we'd be better off without him. thing is for me, that Pardew wasn't just shit, he was a facilitator. He was extremely good at deflecting attention from Ashley and spinning PR for him. As soon as he went the attention turned to Ashley, which is what was needed. Booyah. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
xLiaaamx Posted December 30, 2015 Share Posted December 30, 2015 Why hasn't he used a 433 yet? All of our best results from the last 5 years have come with that shape. If we aren't going to sign a new midfielder it has to be a Sissoko-Anita-Wijnaldum middle 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted December 30, 2015 Share Posted December 30, 2015 Let's face it out four main buys were all gambles. Luckily 2 out of the four have worked out and it would have been nothing short of a miracle if Mitro had hit the ground running - a 21yr old from another league who in any other PL side would have been given a season to bed in and learn the PL. I think even the likes of Origie who are starting to come through have been here 2 years. The bottom line is that we're not buying with squad building in mind but future profit on player sales. This would have already killed this club but for huge chunks of luck and a couple of winning runs out of nowhere.. One thing I noted was McC said that he had been scouting Thauvin in the past and knew what kind of player he was etc...Doesn't bode well reg his judgement. Wingers without pace and physicality don't get very far in the PL. Might turn out to be a good squad player in time but not the stuff marquee buys are made of...Players who can turn a game etc.. I don't think the four buys in the summer are necessarily bad players, I just think that it is asking a lot to introduce a bunch of foreign youngsters and expect them to hit the ground running in the premier league. Even Thauvin could come good given a season of experience in English football. If the spine of the team is solid then you can throw in the odd promising 21 year old around it. But we have reserve goalkeepers in goal for the season, lack of command in central defence, a shit left back, and two central midfielders who are easily overwhelmed. These are positions which demand experience and physical attributes. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wallace Posted December 30, 2015 Share Posted December 30, 2015 I don't really want to get into hounding McClaren out 'cause for me, we did that with Pardew and we got Carver. The c*** at the top is the issue. I doubt we'll get owt better than McClaren now whilst Fatty McTwatty is the owner Hm. There comes a point, as there did with Pardew, that a manager's shitness can not and no longer should be tolerated regardless of the consequences of ousting him. I'd say McClaren isn't miles away from that, a couple of heavy defeats in the next few games Inc a cup exit and he's got to go. I think the press will be doing the hounding as they don't seem to care much for McClaren (failed England manager - they will never forgive him). Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sempuki Posted December 30, 2015 Share Posted December 30, 2015 Press conference today where he will trot out the usual clichés. Hoping not to hear the word "magnificent". Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mattoon Posted December 30, 2015 Share Posted December 30, 2015 I don't really want to get into hounding McClaren out 'cause for me, we did that with Pardew and we got Carver. The c*** at the top is the issue. I doubt we'll get owt better than McClaren now whilst Fatty McTwatty is the owner Hm. There comes a point, as there did with Pardew, that a manager's shitness can not and no longer should be tolerated regardless of the consequences of ousting him. I'd say McClaren isn't miles away from that, a couple of heavy defeats in the next few games Inc a cup exit and he's got to go. I think the press will be doing the hounding as they don't seem to care much for McClaren (failed England manager - they will never forgive him). They give less of a shit about us so probably won't bat an eyelid about us being where we belong. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pilko Posted December 30, 2015 Share Posted December 30, 2015 He's another one who seems very set in his ways and isn't learning from the constant defeats and shit performances. "Hard work" is the only solution, rather than changing his piss poor tactics and retarded substitutions. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parky Posted December 30, 2015 Share Posted December 30, 2015 In the 4231 the middle triangle is key. You can get away with a lot elsewhere if these three are on the case. ................AM/Auxillaryforward..... ..........DM.............DM................. Having variations of Ayoze, One lung with Anita and Colblack there is the biggest issue. Neither of the DM's have the tools to range forward with purpose and the AM/F that we have lack pace or presence. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
triggs Posted December 30, 2015 Share Posted December 30, 2015 Think we should try Sissoko as the attacking midfielder again like he did in his first few games Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrmojorisin75 Posted December 30, 2015 Share Posted December 30, 2015 Think we should try Sissoko as the attacking midfielder again like he did in his first few games Said this a few weeks ago myself. He's shit at the other side of the game but is untouchable at transitioning attacking play and imo has now actually improved his end product a lot. Take him out of the trenches, which he clearly doesn't like, give him a free role and get the system set to have Gini supporting him. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parky Posted December 30, 2015 Share Posted December 30, 2015 He's tried to overcome this limitation with Mbem and Collo coming out with the ball, but even then the DM's look frozen and unsure what to do as they don't have the instinct to get into the final 2/3 of the opp half. So a number of straight passes rely on Ayoze or whomever controlling the ball, turning and linking into the 2nd attack phase. By this time we are outnumbered and the wide forwards are still too wide instead of coming inside. When the cd's come out with the ball the striker is meant to run toward them to create insecurity in the opp CD's and the AM is meant to do an angled run into space for a pass and the wide forwards come inside (get a 4v3 overload on the edge of the box). All this should happen at once. Never happens. Ball goes wide someone pisses about with it and a cross comes in with one in the box with no near post run (rarely) and no mid on the edge of the box. The one player who really understands what should be happening is Wijn hence he goes central and towards the box as soon as there is an overlap on the right wing. That's how he gets dem goals. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
triggs Posted December 30, 2015 Share Posted December 30, 2015 Think we should try Sissoko as the attacking midfielder again like he did in his first few games Said this a few weeks ago myself. He's shit at the other side of the game but is untouchable at transitioning attacking play and imo has now actually improved his end product a lot. Take him out of the trenches, which he clearly doesn't like, give him a free role and get the system set to have Gini supporting him. Aye give him freedom, let him run wherever he wants trying to find space. I also agree that his end product has definitely improved lately Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrmojorisin75 Posted December 30, 2015 Share Posted December 30, 2015 Think we should try Sissoko as the attacking midfielder again like he did in his first few games Said this a few weeks ago myself. He's shit at the other side of the game but is untouchable at transitioning attacking play and imo has now actually improved his end product a lot. Take him out of the trenches, which he clearly doesn't like, give him a free role and get the system set to have Gini supporting him. Aye give him freedom, let him run wherever he wants trying to find space. I also agree that his end product has definitely improved lately It actually makes by far the most sense of any tactical change we could make with current personnel as well. I'd have done it weeks ago, and I'd certainly be looking at it for games like Arsenal where we'll be sitting deep and he can change the phase of play in seconds all on his own. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sempuki Posted December 30, 2015 Share Posted December 30, 2015 Lying through his false teeth: https://mobile.twitter.com/juliette_grace/status/682205616404852736 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Twinport53 Posted December 30, 2015 Share Posted December 30, 2015 Steve McClaren on transfers - "We always knew January was coming up". Aye, it's only been that way for thousands of years Steve Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted December 30, 2015 Share Posted December 30, 2015 :lol: Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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