Steve McClaren

[Darth Crooks]

I can see why somebody is saying he's better. Don't agree with it but it's the kick in the bollocks or a poke in the siem isn't it?

[Teasy]

More like a punch in the face vs having your balls squeezed in a clamp until they pop.

[The College Dropout]

TCD arguing we don't play better football then brings out a stat. To anyone with eyes the football is better than it was under Pardew, that's not even a question.

had this discussion loads but that football at the beginning of the season was shit to me. We never looked like scoring. Since we've been more direct.  Against Wham we looked very good tho.

[Mattoon]

The points on the board is what matters as far as league position are concerned, however we are playing better and we're not getting completely spanked on a regular basis, the main worry being the inability to score and put games to bed. Undoubtedly, bar a hand full of games we've played much better and more positive football and my eyes don't bleed watching us.

 

The main point being, McClaren isn't the answer and he's not a good manager, but he has been tolerable and I'm not cheering on the other team anymore, I'm not willing us to lose, that's light years away from where I was as a supporter under Pardew and in that respect, yes McClaren is better.

 

We're going in the right direction and I feel like though it's 2 steps forward 1 back we are making slow progress, no that's not good enough when you've had £80m pumped into the team but years of neglect and patching up holes has got us here which isn't totally McClaren's fault. We need results and we need them now, I just hope we don't run out of games before we start to find the form we need.

[mrmojorisin75]

TCD arguing we don't play better football then brings out a stat. To anyone with eyes the football is better than it was under Pardew, that's not even a question.

had this discussion loads but that football at the beginning of the season was shit to me. We never looked like scoring. Since we've been more direct.  Against Wham we looked very good tho.

Last two home games have had better football than I ever saw under Pardew. I think that is only likely to get better as well if we stay up.

 

I'm not really arguing about the early stuff now, he was trying to do something but it was totally ineffective yeah.

[Teasy]

Definitely seen progress at home, both Football and result wise (3 wins, 2 draws, 1 loss from the last 6 home games).  Its the away form that just isn't improving.  Really hope McClaren stops pissing about with the team selection in away games (3 at the back ect) because I think that's costing us.

[Nobody]

Big part of the reason we are still as shite as we are is because of Pardew, let's not forget that. He made sure we got rid of Ben Arfa and MYM, and Santon to a degree. The only one of those three that we have replaced is MYM, but that money should have been spent on a partner to him, not his replacement.

On top of that you have the players that were more or less ruined by him as well, which we can see takes some time to recover from.

[mrmojorisin75]

Big part of the reason we are still as shite as we are is because of Pardew, let's not forget that. He made sure we got rid of Ben Arfa and MYM, and Santon to a degree. The only one of those three that we have replaced is MYM, but that money should have been spent on a partner to him, not his replacement.

On top of that you have the players that were more or less ruined by him as well, which we can see takes some time to recover from.

 

and don't forget how hard he'll (pardew) have pushed for geordie jack, who has been a massive reason for us being utter shite this season, albeit mcclaren is ultimately to blame for that as well

[mozy]

More like McClaren has given him 6 months, realised he's at best a very limited player and instantly brought in alternative / better players.

 

 

[mrmojorisin75]

More like McClaren has given him 6 months, realised he's at best a very limited player and instantly brought in alternative / better players.

 

 

 

we'll see, hopefully, but he still has no excuses playing him the amount he did considering how ineffectual he was and how much we actually lost

[lovejoy]

More like McClaren has given him 6 months, realised he's at best a very limited player and instantly brought in alternative / better players.

 

 

 

I hope you're right, not sure myself.

[mrmojorisin75]

More like McClaren has given him 6 months, realised he's at best a very limited player and instantly brought in alternative / better players.

 

 

 

I hope you're right, not sure myself.

I think his preferred partnership still be Shelvey and Colback, all inglish. Really, really hope I'm wrong mind.

[mrmojorisin75]

Actually I suspect he'll secretly be creaming himself at the prospect of being able to field Elliot, Dummett, Taylor, Shelvey, Colback and Townsend at the same time[emoji38]

Living Pardew's dream.

[Lush Vlad]

http://www.chroniclelive.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/daryl-janmaat-says-56-shots-10853918

 

Seeing as TCD loves stats so much, I found this interesting.  Although I don't really use how many shots we've had, as evidence that we haven't played any good football this year

 

Please carry on using shots at goal and our early season form, where McClaren was still figuring things out, as a valid argument

 

Our away form is absolutely pathetic and McClaren needs to grow a pair.  We are like a totally different team when we're not at SJP.  Nobody can really argue against that and I don't think anyone is.  Despite not liking McClaren, or wanting him.  I still think there are far more obvious signs of a long term plan and strategy.  As opposed to Pardew, where I couldn't even tell you what our tactics or plan was most of the time. 

[Tiotes Witch Doctor]

The football is definitely better there's no doubt about that, if we had started the season with the squad we have now we would be well out of danger, I fear any progress we're making now is too late though and our points haul is too small to stay up without it maybe going down to the last game again at best.

 

I think if we were to stay up and keep McClaren, and provided we brought in more reinforcements in summer and didn't lose our better players, we would kick on a bit next season, but still don't think hes the right man if we want to get up challenging for the top 6-7 spots.

[The College Dropout]

TCD arguing we don't play better football then brings out a stat. To anyone with eyes the football is better than it was under Pardew, that's not even a question.

had this discussion loads but that football at the beginning of the season was s*** to me. We never looked like scoring. Since we've been more direct.  Against Wham we looked very good tho.

Last two home games have had better football than I ever saw under Pardew. I think that is only likely to get better as well if we stay up.

 

I'm not really arguing about the early stuff now, he was trying to do something but it was totally ineffective yeah.

Very pleased with the home performances recently. WHU especially. But down that spine we have better ball-playing and hold up individuals than we've had in a long time. Chancel - Colo - Shelvey - Wij - Perez - Mitro. Not sure how much credit SMC gets.

[Incognito]

TCD arguing we don't play better football then brings out a stat. To anyone with eyes the football is better than it was under Pardew, that's not even a question.

had this discussion loads but that football at the beginning of the season was s*** to me. We never looked like scoring. Since we've been more direct.  Against Wham we looked very good tho.

Last two home games have had better football than I ever saw under Pardew. I think that is only likely to get better as well if we stay up.

 

I'm not really arguing about the early stuff now, he was trying to do something but it was totally ineffective yeah.

Very pleased with the home performances recently. WHU especially. But down that spine we have better ball-playing and hold up individuals than we've had in a long time. Chancel - Colo - Shelvey - Wij - Perez - Mitro. Not sure how much credit SMC gets.

A whole lot more than Pardew, which was the original point.

[Lush Vlad]

TCD arguing we don't play better football then brings out a stat. To anyone with eyes the football is better than it was under Pardew, that's not even a question.

had this discussion loads but that football at the beginning of the season was s*** to me. We never looked like scoring. Since we've been more direct.  Against Wham we looked very good tho.

Last two home games have had better football than I ever saw under Pardew. I think that is only likely to get better as well if we stay up.

 

I'm not really arguing about the early stuff now, he was trying to do something but it was totally ineffective yeah.

Very pleased with the home performances recently. WHU especially. But down that spine we have better ball-playing and hold up individuals than we've had in a long time. Chancel - Colo - Shelvey - Wij - Perez - Mitro. Not sure how much credit SMC gets.

 

It's almost as if you have forgotten some of the great players Pardew had at his disposal.  Some that he totally misused and some he ended up freezing out the team. 

[Gallowgate Toon]

Just look tat Derby, if you want to look at the credit he should get for us playing good stuff. They've got a fantastic squad for that league and their fans are openly saying the football isn't as good as it was under SMC. It's not as simple as saying, better footballers = automatically better football.

[r0cafella]

“It is a problem (picking up points away from home) we have had all season, it is down to the way we play, we tend to play on the front foot.

 

“Which is good when you are at home, but away we have been exposed, and haven’t ground out enough results.

 

“If two or three of our away games had been draws then we would have ground out a few more points and we would be in a slightly better situation.

 

“It is something we need to address because we can’t afford to rely on our home form because then the pressure on those games will just become too much.

 

“In our home games we are starting to get a consistency in our performance and the way we play.

 

“We need to start transferring that to our away games and picking up points away from home, we owe it to the fans.”

 

[Mattoon]

I found this more worrying:

 

"Maybe that's to our detriment that we have gone for the win. We can't sit back, we can't soak up pressure and hit teams on the break, we have to be quite front foot.

 

"That's how we play. It's not got us results and we are hoping to turn that around, starting tomorrow."

[r0cafella]

I found this more worrying:

 

"Maybe that's to our detriment that we have gone for the win. We can't sit back, we can't soak up pressure and hit teams on the break, we have to be quite front foot.

 

"That's how we play. It's not got us results and we are hoping to turn that around, starting tomorrow."

He's full of shit.

[sempuki]

I found this more worrying:

 

"Maybe that's to our detriment that we have gone for the win. We can't sit back, we can't soak up pressure and hit teams on the break, we have to be quite front foot.

 

"That's how we play. It's not got us results and we are hoping to turn that around, starting tomorrow."

He's full of s***.

That's how we don't play.

[Mattoon]

If I ever here "front foot" again I'll kick that person in the cunt!

[Bimpy474]

He talks some right shit, no weapons grade bullshit like fuckface but it's not far off in the delusional stakes.

 

How he thinks we've played is the worry, if he really believes that he needs hitting really hard in the knackers. The only decent thing about it is, he doesn't blame players to steer away from his dire tactics like fuckface did.